I personally don't hate Delly and I think a lot of hate is unjust but I think your love for his defense goes to far on the other end. He is a below average player that is being asked to do more than his skill set will allow him with Kyrie out. I still think there is a spot for him on the team because you can't have super stars littering your bench.
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Many writers on these pages seem to want a back-up PG that can replace Kyrie and his skill set...that is not going to happen...no-one with those skills is going to want to sit on the bench on the off-chance that Kyrie misses a game and they get a start. Therefore the back-up will always not be as good as the starter. The back-up PG is there to give Kyrie and Bron a bit of time off the court to rest during games...he is not there to replace either on them. As such the question is, is there someone available with a marked better overall skill set (on and off court; defense as well as offence) available to taker Delly's spot...clearly the answer is NO because we could not get one.
The point about replacing Kyrie if he is out is that the rest of the team has to pick up some of the slack...it is not the job of the back up to do this on his own, because as I said Kyrie's skill set cannot be replaced. It is a team matter. In the game against the Pacers, we used Shum to try to do this, but he sucks as a PG more than Delly.
Some perspective is in order: in the game against the Pacers we were a couple of baskets away from winning (both Delly and Love missed shots, mostly good shots: they just didn't go in, it happens...but at least they got into position to have a good shot). Against the Rockets Delly didn't take shots (clearly Bron told him to give him the ball and not shoot) and we lost in OT against a real good team.
Delly is a good back-up because he understands the game plan; generally makes good decisions with the ball; doesn't turnover; is aggressive on defense; and is a good floor general by-and-large. The poor parts of his game have to be covered by the rest of the team...I would have thought that with Bron; Love; Shum; JR there...this should be possible...it would be easy to find a PG with shooting and creativity, but not with the other things that Delly brings to the table and in my opinion, they are more valuable.
The point about replacing Kyrie if he is out is that the rest of the team has to pick up some of the slack...it is not the job of the back up to do this on his own, because as I said Kyrie's skill set cannot be replaced. It is a team matter. In the game against the Pacers, we used Shum to try to do this, but he sucks as a PG more than Delly.
Some perspective is in order: in the game against the Pacers we were a couple of baskets away from winning (both Delly and Love missed shots, mostly good shots: they just didn't go in, it happens...but at least they got into position to have a good shot). Against the Rockets Delly didn't take shots (clearly Bron told him to give him the ball and not shoot) and we lost in OT against a real good team.
Delly is a good back-up because he understands the game plan; generally makes good decisions with the ball; doesn't turnover; is aggressive on defense; and is a good floor general by-and-large. The poor parts of his game have to be covered by the rest of the team...I would have thought that with Bron; Love; Shum; JR there...this should be possible...it would be easy to find a PG with shooting and creativity, but not with the other things that Delly brings to the table and in my opinion, they are more valuable.
I agree with the premise that he is good at what he does. Does he have weaknesses - of course he does. All of the players on this team do: Love is poor at switching and helping and boxing out someone else's man. Kyrie similarly does not compete for rebounds well and gives too little effort on D night in night out. LBJ needs the ball in his hands too much ala' Melo. Shump cannot dribble well, JRSmith is a loose cannon at times and great at others - so is inconsistent. The issue is how to meld the team and use the resources you have: skilled teams and coaching staff do it and it works for a while: look at the Spurs, hell Atlanta this year.
Delly is not the problem - is he spectacular - no, does he score high - no.
Delly is not the problem - is he spectacular - no, does he score high - no.
Hah, no brainer. 1990 team wins easily. Too much consistent shooting and better D overall.
I think the critics are too harsh on Dellavedova, I mean the boy comes off the bench at any given time and leaves his heart out on the court, he is very limited on offense but he does the best he can of defense, I agree that his defense is not good enough against the top point guards in the league, but Patrick Beverley is not one of the top and he was able to defend him really well because overall Beverley didn't manage to do too much damage.
Blatt loves Delly you can see it, Blatt always has this kind of player he really likes off the bench because he brings a lot of toughness, when he coached Maccabi the player he really liked was Yogev Ohayon, he was very limited on offense but he was a pest on defense and it helped Maccabi a lot.
I believe Delly will be an important factor at higher stages of the season, and also in the post-season.
Blatt loves Delly you can see it, Blatt always has this kind of player he really likes off the bench because he brings a lot of toughness, when he coached Maccabi the player he really liked was Yogev Ohayon, he was very limited on offense but he was a pest on defense and it helped Maccabi a lot.
I believe Delly will be an important factor at higher stages of the season, and also in the post-season.
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Trade deadline has passed, available options right now include guys who couldn't do half of what Delly has already done in his career. Are you going to talk Royal Ivey out of retirement and his new coaching career? Nate Wolters and Toney Douglas haven't shown much in the past calendar year and have been cut a few times by a few worse teams. Where is this poor man's Kyrie that Griffin refuses to sign?
Let's also remember that Dion tried to be a driving and ball handling type player, but it didn't mesh with Kyrie and LeBron on the floor. Dion was perfect for games where Kyrie was out, but he proved to be a bad fit when the team was healthy. If the Cavaliers draft a backup point guard who has more athleticism and lateral quickness than Delly, great. But for this season, the lineup seems set unless unexpected options present themselves.
This post is about as useful as your drunk uncle mumbling "Fuck it, if America is going to be great, Obama has to get off his hands and fix the economy."
Any upgrades at point are dependent on a better PG getting waived unexpectedly or waiting for next offseason. It's the clueless that perpetuate this discussion. That is why we continue it.
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Exactly guys. Likewise, what are we doing with TT as our backup big. There just has to be a Boogie Cousins-lite out there. Or what about with Miller, Jones, and Marion as our backup SFs. I mean, there's probably some sharpshooter/world class defender combination player out there we could find....
Point is just because position theoretically could be upgraded doesn't mean the upgrades are available. I swear some of you expect to have an All Star at every position. It's freaking backup PG. Let it go. And stop doing that dramatic act where you pretend like letting go of Delly is the only way we'll win a championship. We're 18-4 in our last 22 games. We're fine.
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I really do understand availability issues. You can't make something happen that isn't there. However I'm just concerned...should Kyrie go down, even for a few playoff games...we have literally no one to step in and give us solid minutes both offensively and defensively.
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If the all star PG, primary ballhandler on any contending team goes down in the playoffs, the same could be said.
Clips all good if CP3 goes down?
Portland still humming along with no Lillard?
Dennis Schroeder gets Atlanta deep in the playoffs as a starter if Teague goes down?
Livingston holds the fort down for an injured Steph Curry in a championship run?
And so on and so on.
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I see what you're saying. I guess I feel like our bench is a bit weak- those teams have at least viable backup options. At least in my opinion. I'm concerned about Delly, Jones, Miller, Marion and Perk as a whole I think.
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