Mike Brown, Fired

[Green Lantern]

I said it when they hired Brown it was not a fit for him..too high profile team with superstars galore..and Mike is more of a better assistant but as far as a HC,he would do better on a smaller profile team. Like Minnesota.
Somewhere they're not expected to win ..

 

[Maximus]

I'd take him as a defensive assistant coach in a minute...not that he'd ever accept it.

 

[Jon]

Mike is a defensive system coach, and never came close to implementing his system in LA. Heck, it took him 2 seasons and one heck of a roller coaster ride to get it running in Cleveland - and only had to cope with one prima-donna.

Hard to believe they'd can him so quick unless they had Phil Jackson ready to stop back in.

But ... D'Antoni sure would be fun. Quite the 180 degree turn around that'd be.

 

[catfish]

I know this has been discussed previously but we now need some accurate info re the lottery protection of the Lakers pick.

 

[jvlgato]

Mike Brown is just one of a million example in sports and the workplace in general of someone getting promoted past their competency level. He was a great defensive coach, but he's a terrible head coach because he doesn't know how to manage a game or make appropriate adjustments. As a defensive coach, this wasn't an issue, but it loses games (especially playoff games) for a head coach. Brown is also pretty inept when it comes to running an offense, and thus far has seemed pretty unwilling to bring in a talented offensive coach to run it for him.

Other Cleveland sports examples are Pat Shurmur (who wasn't even a good offensive coordinator and should never have been promoted to head coach) and Romeo Crennel (see: Brown, Mike). Some guys just aren't meant to be head coaches.

For anyone on this board who works for a living, you probably see this kind of thing all the time. Everyone has a competency level, and if they're promoted past it, they're going to flop.

Agreed. It happens all over the place. It's called The Peter Principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

 

[Jon]

I'd take him as a defensive assistant coach in a minute...not that he'd ever accept it.

Stranger things have happened - like for instance, Eddie Jordan teaming up with Mike. He really should try for a re-build for his next job. You'd think he could get that kind of gig, and it would give him the chance to bring the players along in his system - rather than having to force it down their throats.

It must be nice to get paid nearly ~$13m to do nothing.

 

[Cavatt]

I think Jackson isn't impossible. More talent than when they last eon

 

[gregdawg]

Mike Brown strikes me as a relatively dumb guy who can't really do anything but follow an established defensive formula. He just repeats his formula everywhere he goes - this doesn't necessarily make him a "great defensive mind"...it just means he can remember just enough of a formula to repeat it. Just because somebody can memorize a story, that doesn't make them a great author. Everything I've seen from Brown suggests to me that he is a pretty dumb guy...his refusal to give up on failing strategies, his lack of evaluation ability, his baffling decision-making, etc....he's just good at smooth-talking in interviews and getting people to think he's competent, but the results prove otherwise. Even though the Cavs won games with Mike Brown, their offense during that time was pretty hard to watch. it was all one-on-one with Lebron. Lebron basically carried that team with one-on-one basketball - any success on the offensive end had nothing to do with Mike Brown, and everything to do with Lebron just imposing his will and scoring on people.

 

[Real Deal]

Return of the Zen master.

 

[Douglar]

I'd take him as a defensive assistant coach in a minute...not that he'd ever accept it.

From what I've heard about other coaches' contracts, Brown would likely have to forfeit most of the money that he's owed if he takes another pro coaching job before his contract is up.

But for all the people that want to mouth off about how Brown wasn't great at coaching defense, you should remember that this is the guy that had the Cavs playing as a top 5 defensive team with a super star that slacked on D for 3 quarters a game, Drew Gooden who couldn't figure out when to rotate, Z anchoring the pick and roll defense, and while major minutes going to Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall off the bench. That doesn't happen when a team has an average coach.

 

[Bill Walton.]

Brown is an interesting one... He's a defensive coordinator who came from a system ran by a defensive HC. How much of his success was due to his genius, and how much should be credited to Popovich? San Antonio didn't seem to loose much defensively without him. That said, he must be a hell of a talker in an interview, because he convinced Buss he was the guy. He also did a phenomenal job of teaching guys like James and West how to play defense effectively, and ran an effective defense in Cleveland for years. But I'm always skeptical of guys who succeed as coordinators in categories the head coach specializes in, as the coach likely isn't giving those coordinators an especially long leash in the first place.

I really don't remember exactly who said it, but I think Gilbert.

Mike Brown was the best person he ever interviewed for a job or something. Apparently his interview skills are incredible.

 

[Bill Walton.]

By the way what was all that Buss talk about Mike Brown being too smart and too hard of a worker to be replaced?


Idk seems kinda like a stupid move to throw away your coach after a 1-4 start. Especially considering the overhaul this roster went through. Gotta feel for Mike Brown

 

[Douglar]

Unfortunately, this means our swap from the Lakers will probably end up being worth a lot less than it would have been otherwise.

Maybe it will help them when the playoffs come around, but it's probably going to hurt them in the next two months.

 

[AMC]

What I just texted my Laker fan friend (who just woke up):

"Lakers fired Mike Brown...and Coach K cancels Duke practice for "basketball circumstances" "

He believed both parts. :chuckles:

 

[Mdog1]

By the way what was all that Buss talk about Mike Brown being too smart and too hard of a worker to be replaced?


Idk seems kinda like a stupid move to throw away your coach after a 1-4 start. Especially considering the overhaul this roster went through. Gotta feel for Mike Brown

This is the Lakers though... This is a team that went out and got two all stars this offseason to add to the two they already had. I agree that it is not a good move, but there is a lot of pressure on anyone that takes that job. 4 (minimum)-6 (maximum) HOFer's on the roster brings you that type of pressure.