Official Game of Thrones show thread

[The Human Q-Tip]

Yeah breaking the wall broke the spell. What you are saying is that the best thing to do would have been to attack King's landing right away and do nothing about the Night King?

Probably HAha

Again, major error in judgement by Jon Snow

I'm saying that it is possible the Lord of Light deliberately brought the Wall down so the NK could invade.

But you'd be correct in your point as well. Although if that's the case, then Jon was being manupulated, not just making a bad decision.

 

[kosis]

Was just watching the preview for next week and noticed Euron at the end looking towards the sky in bewilderment. I assume at Drogon. But why that reaction? He's already seen the dragons and killed Rhaegal. Something bizarre afoot? Rhaegal resurfaces? Ice spiders? Or maybe I'm over analyzing. I'll hang up and listen.

 

[Stark]

Was just watching the preview for next week and noticed Euron at the end looking towards the sky in bewilderment. I assume at Drogon. But why that reaction? He's already seen the dragons and killed Rhaegal. Something bizarre afoot? Rhaegal resurfaces? Ice spiders? Or maybe I'm over analyzing. I'll hang up and listen.

My guess is that they made armor for Drogon.

Or it's intentional misdirection with the dragon cry and we're actually seeing Yara's ships pull up with the rest of the Iron Islands.

 

[Rich]

My guess is that they made armor for Drogon.

Or it's intentional misdirection with the dragon cry and we're actually seeing Yara's ships pull up with the rest of the Iron Islands.

I'm with you. Think it's armor.

Only took our genius advisers a 2nd Dragon death, after drogon being wounded, to make it.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Was just watching the preview for next week and noticed Euron at the end looking towards the sky in bewilderment. I assume at Drogon. But why that reaction? He's already seen the dragons and killed Rhaegal. Something bizarre afoot? Rhaegal resurfaces? Ice spiders? Or maybe I'm over analyzing. I'll hang up and listen.

In the trailers, it looked like Dany was flying downward with the sun right behind her, which would make it very difficult for anyone to get a proper sight on her.

Armor is definitely plausible as well.

 

[inliner311]

In the trailers, it looked like Dany was flying downward with the sun right behind her, which would make it very difficult for anyone to get a proper sight on her.

Armor is definitely plausible as well.

It's also cloudy which Dany might figure out to fly drogon above the clouds and dive to take out the ships.

 

[Cavatt]

IF I had a dragon I would try to come down as straight as possible and drop a huge boulder right on the ship. I would also scout ahead on a dragon, so that an armada of ship wouldn't lay in wait for my armada. Just me tho

 

[Ohio]

Last night I said the episode was ok...but the more I think about it, it was bad.

I think the root of most/all the problems are the final 2 seasons being rushed. These 13 episodes should have been 30. Some of these character interactions/arcs/storylines just feel so forced. With more time they could have felt much more organic. At the same time, we wouldn't have just skipped what should have been great scenes like the Battle at Highgarden or the Stark girls learning of Jon's heritage or many others. And you'd probably get more attention to detail...i.e, not having a Starbucks cup on set or some of the crazy teleporting and wholly unrealistic scenes like Rhaegal's death.

It feels like a big school project that a group of kids whipped together the night before it was due just so they could get a C or D and not fail.

I'm still holding out hope for the final two episodes...but last night's episode was pretty disappointing.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Just attack at night. Whether the ships are at anchor, in the harbor, or wherever, they'd be much easier to spot against water than would a dragon against a dark sky. A couple of quick passes, burn some ships, then leave once the burning ships give off too much light. Rinse repeat every night unless it's a really bright moon and clear sky.

Same with the castle. The walls with scorpions will be much easier for a dragon to see than it would be for gunners to see a fast moving dragon at night.

 

[TyGuy]

After being revived, Jon rallied the North, retook Winterfell (albeit with help), brought Danaery and her three dragons to Winterfell, and led the defense that resulted in the defeat of the NK. It was also his presence in Winterfell that led Arya to change her plans, head North, and eventually kill the NK.

The Lord of Light may already have gotten his money's worth out of Jon.

Nobody on the show seems to have picked up on the reality that the WW may not have been able to cross the Wall at all if Danaerys hadn't brought her dragons North, though. Maybe that's deliberate, or maybe D&D just don't care about that loose thread.

This is why I thought the Night King would be deeper than the paper thin bad guy he turned out to be. I thought there had to be a reason, that he had some insider information to know to March on the wall at that exact moment after 4 thousand years. Like he knew that the dragons would be there and they would explain how exactly he knew to March on the wall at that moment.

It turns out it was just the plot that told him to March and a Dragon conveniently showed up for him to tear the wall down because that's what D&D wrote.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Regardless of the morality, I'd love to see some real roasting of Lannister and Golden Company next week.

ETA: GRRM is a history geek, and he's likely familiar with the more famous mercenary companies from the Middle Ages. The thing about them is...they didn't do lost causes. If the deck was stacked too heavily against them, they broke their contract and split. I could see the Golden Company doing the same, and abandoning Cersei, if an armored dragon becomes impervious to the scorpions.

That being said...when I first met GRRM back at PhilCon in 2001, he was sitting right next to Glen Cook, who wrote the Black Company series. And the Black Company never broke a contract. So I suppose his inspiration could be from them, and the Golden Company might just be willing to die in place.

But I'm guessing they won't.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Just attack at night. Whether the ships are at anchor, in the harbor, or wherever, they'd be much easier to spot against water than would a dragon against a dark sky. A couple of quick passes, burn some ships, then leave once the burning ships give off too much light. Rinse repeat every night unless it's a really bright moon and clear sky.

Same with the castle. The walls with scorpions will be much easier for a dragon to see than it would be for gunners to see a fast moving dragon at night.

Pretty sure those scorpions don't turn 360 degrees either, as if they did the guys shooting them would be hanging over the other side of the wall. So just fly really high above the clouds, then swoop in from above and light up the walls of the city. You could do that with minimal civilian casualties, I'd think.

 

[Cavatt]

Just attack at night. Whether the ships are at anchor, in the harbor, or wherever, they'd be much easier to spot against water than would a dragon against a dark sky. A couple of quick passes, burn some ships, then leave once the burning ships give off too much light. Rinse repeat every night unless it's a really bright moon and clear sky.

Same with the castle. The walls with scorpions will be much easier for a dragon to see than it would be for gunners to see a fast moving dragon at night.

Really draws the contrast with the Military stuff that happened in the books with Robb and Tywin that they had to draw on vs now. Their plan was literally

"Let's go get Cersei, Ill go by boat you go by land on the big main road ."

 

[godfather]

She was always very close to Jon, and left Braavos specifically because she felt drawn to her family. The "Stark" is very strong in her. She also witnessed her father being murdered in KL, so probably has a very high skepticism towards non-Northerners in general.

I think she just lines right up with Sansa in terms of believing the North should be independent.

Yeah, that makes sense, but I don't believe that was why though. Literally the scene before was when Sansa was purposely trying to undermine Dany.

And they had that little back and forth, and we can see Arya watching it and coming away with a bad opinion of Dany. Which is dumb.

Sansa was the one way out of line and just purposely trying to make a point the North is more powerful/needed now than before.

And right after Arya was the one to say "we need to talk".

She came to the conclusion Dany is just bad. Just completely absurd.

And by the way, why would they even want to be so hellbent on Jon denying Dany the throne (before they knew who he was).

When one. She's going to make Jon the warden of the North. And she's shown to be an ally and not an enemy. They just got done burning a lot of bodies. Do they want more war? Like WTF is there to gain out of it, unless they truly saw Dany to be a tyrant. And they haven't seen anything to suspect that.

 

[Chris]

Regardless of the morality, I'd love to see some real roasting of Lannister and Golden Company next week.

ETA: GRRM is a history geek, and he's likely familiar with the more famous mercenary companies from the Middle Ages. The thing about them is...they didn't do lost causes. If the deck was stacked too heavily against them, they broke their contract and split. I could see the Golden Company doing the same, and abandoning Cersei, if an armored dragon becomes impervious to the scorpions.

That being said...when I first met GRRM back at PhilCon in 2001, he was sitting right next to Glen Cook, who wrote the Black Company series. And the Black Company never broke a contract. So I suppose his inspiration could be from them, and the Golden Company might just be willing to die in place.

But I'm guessing they won't.

Cersei appears to have the massive advantage, Qyburn wasn’t kidding.

I’m sure there’ll be some deus ex machina to allow Cersei to lose of course but as it stands I don’t get how a ragtag battle worn handful troops can siege KL. “Cuz dragon” I suppose but Rhaegal got fucking trashed in a second, would be idiotic if Dany just owns the Golden Company, Lannister army and KL defenses.