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[godfather]

Sansa is definitely going to end up DEAD more than likely.

She betrayed Jon too. Not that I think he'd kill her for it. But once Dany gets word others know, she's going to know exactly who has been spreading the gossip.

Her motives make no sense at all. She doesn't even get anything out of it.

 

[Cavatt]

Sansa is definitely going to end up DEAD more than likely.

She betrayed Jon too. Not that I think he'd kill her for it. But once Dany gets word others know, she's going to know exactly who has been spreading the gossip.

Her motives make no sense at all. She doesn't even get anything out of it.

Funny that she mentions patience to Dany, but then has none of her own. Better to win first and settle subtle birthright stuff later. Lol.

 

[Ohio]

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This was my exact line of thinking too.

And then Jon could carry out the sentence against Varys, who is inevitably dying (as most believe) and not a Stark.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

And then Jon could carry out the sentence against Varys, who is inevitably dying (as most believe) and not a Stark.

Suppose Arya's target is Danaerys? It would make sense given that she's siding with Sansa and would prefer Jon as King. And what if she succeeds?

 

[Ohio]

Sansa is definitely going to end up DEAD more than likely.

She betrayed Jon too. Not that I think he'd kill her for it. But once Dany gets word others know, she's going to know exactly who has been spreading the gossip.

Her motives make no sense at all. She doesn't even get anything out of it.

I don’t see a path to Sansa dying. She is safe in Winterfell. I don’t see her being executed for gossiping.

Pretty certain Arya is donezo, though.

Sansa’s motives are for Northern power.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Tormund was bragging about Jon being murdered. I still think it is weird this hasn't come up between Dany and Jon.

I think if Beric was supposed to "fulfill a function" then Jon probably is too. Doesn't make a lot of sense for a guy that has been brought back to life to fight sitting on the throne until he is 80

Davos said the Lord of Light did his thing and skidattled. He isstill working through Jon, and it seems like everyone ignores it

I hate to say this, but the rather popular (on RCF, anyway) "Jon is a shitty general" theme doesn't seem to be common among the characters. Multiple characters have referred to him as a war hero, and nobody has ever hinted at a view to the contrary.

So, if the writers don't see him as a shitty general who has yet to fulfill a destiny, they may not write him that way moving forward.

 

[Ohio]

Suppose Arya's target is Danaerys? It would make sense given that she's siding with Sansa and would prefer Jon as King. And what if she succeeds?

I could see it. That would be a pretty wild twist.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I could see it. That would be a pretty wild twist.

It actually makes more narrative sense than her going to kill Cersei.

 

[godfather]

Makes no sense why Arya doesn't trust/like Dany. She doesn't even know her.

I think it was just thrown in there to make it seem like Jon is not seeing her for who she really is, while everyone else is.

Arya has like no knowledge of any of the 'questionable' decisions she's made. And as she mentions they'd be dead if it wasn't for her help.

But just doesn't "trust her"... Okay.....

 

[kosis]

Tormund was bragging about Jon being murdered. I still think it is weird this hasn't come up between Dany and Jon.

I think if Beric was supposed to "fulfill a function" then Jon probably is too. Doesn't make a lot of sense for a guy that has been brought back to life to fight sitting on the throne until he is 80

Davos said the Lord of Light did his thing and skidattled. He isstill working through Jon, and it seems like everyone ignores it

Very weird that they went from "Don't tell anyone I was killed" last season, to openly discussing it without batting an eye. We never even get a conversation about it, and it's now common lore I suppose? Are we expected to just assume that everyone is cool with it? Odd storytelling choices.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Makes no sense why Arya doesn't trust/like Dany. She doesn't even know her.

I think it was just thrown in there to make it seem like Jon is not seeing her for who she really is, while everyone else is.

Arya has like no knowledge of any of the 'questionable' decisions she's made. And as she mentions they'd be dead if it wasn't for her help.

But just doesn't "trust her"... Okay.....

She was always very close to Jon, and left Braavos specifically because she felt drawn to her family. The "Stark" is very strong in her. She also witnessed her father being murdered in KL, so probably has a very high skepticism towards non-Northerners in general.

I think she just lines right up with Sansa in terms of believing the North should be independent.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Tormund was bragging about Jon being murdered. I still think it is weird this hasn't come up between Dany and Jon.

I think if Beric was supposed to "fulfill a function" then Jon probably is too. Doesn't make a lot of sense for a guy that has been brought back to life to fight sitting on the throne until he is 80

Davos said the Lord of Light did his thing and skidattled. He isstill working through Jon, and it seems like everyone ignores it

After being revived, Jon rallied the North, retook Winterfell (albeit with help), brought Danaery and her three dragons to Winterfell, and led the defense that resulted in the defeat of the NK. It was also his presence in Winterfell that led Arya to change her plans, head North, and eventually kill the NK.

The Lord of Light may already have gotten his money's worth out of Jon.

Nobody on the show seems to have picked up on the reality that the WW may not have been able to cross the Wall at all if Danaerys hadn't brought her dragons North, though. Maybe that's deliberate, or maybe D&D just don't care about that loose thread.

 

[Cavatt]

After being revived, Jon rallied the North, retook Winterfell (albeit with help), brought Danaery and her three dragons to Winterfell, and led the defense that resulted in the defeat of the NK. It was also his presence in Winterfell that led Arya to change her plans, head North, and eventually kill the NK.

The Lord of Light may already have gotten his money's worth out of Jon.

Nobody on the show seems to have picked up on the reality that the WW may not have been able to cross the Wall at all if Danaerys hadn't brought her dragons North, though. Maybe that's deliberate, or maybe D&D just don't care about that loose thread.

You can argue too that getting the dragon was a result of Jon and company going with 10 guys to get a wight. Should have taken more dudes.

Would have been nicer to fight them at the wall I think.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

You can argue too that getting the dragon was a result of Jon and company going with 10 guys to get a wight. Should have taken more dudes.

Would have been nicer to fight them at the wall I think.

Benjen said that the spells in the Wall prevented him from crossing it in his half-wight state. Presumably, that would apply to WW and wights themselves. If that is accurate, that means the WW could not cross even a completely undefended Wall. Viserion coming north and getting killed/revived is the only thing that let the NK come south at all. There never would have been a fight at the Wall at all.

At least, it seems that way to me.

 

[Cavatt]

Benjen said that the spells in the Wall prevented him from crossing it in his half-wight state. Presumably, that would apply to WW and wights themselves. If that is accurate, that means the WW could not cross even a completely undefended wall. Viserion coming north and getting killed/revived is the only think that let the NL come south at all. There never would have been a fight at the Wall at all.

At least, it seems that way to me.

Yeah breaking the wall broke the spell. What you are saying is that the best thing to do would have been to attack King's landing right away and do nothing about the Night King?

Probably HAha

Again, major error in judgement by Jon Snow