OT: Derek Jeter becoming the all time Yankee hit king

[col63onel]

Apparently, John Battle just doesn't like Derek Jeter.

I just don't like Jeterated players.....

 

[Chardon]

 

[Mdog1]

Congrats Jeter, but with that said FUCK THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!

Could not care less about that franchise.

 

[The Voice]

Phelps has also had plenty of issues as well...

Plus, it's fucking golf, tennis and swimming..

Those are much harder to dominate because you don't have teammates.

 

[macbdog]

Just thought I would point this out, maybe most of it has been mentioned in the thread already, but I feel a connection with Lou after a report I did on him when I was 9:

• Derek Jeter needed over 500 ABS more than Gehrig to reach his milestone

• Jeter also has a career average (.317) 23 points below Gehrig's (.340!!!).

• Gehrig had more than twice as many HRs as DJ at the same point (498 to 223)

• Gehrig had almost twice as many BBs (1508 to 873), half as many Ks (790 to 1454), and 100 more 2Bs (534 to 437)

• Gehrig also led the Yanks to 5 World Series champions after turning 27, while Derek Jeter since entering his athletic prime has led the Yankess to exactly zero

• Lou was cut down by illness when he was still one of the top hitters in baseball, only a year older than DJ

Derek Jeter belongs 'in the same ballpark' as Gehrig, and he now has a nice Lifetime Achievement award. An excellent hitter and baseball player. But he is no Lou Iron Horse Gehrig.

 

[-Akronite-]

Nobody suggests you must care, but it's something that should be appreciated on it's own.. It's not like this is the Royals... It's the greatest professional sports team in America with the most tradition and history..

You may not have a vested interest in it, but if you're a baseball fan, and appreciate the sport and history of it, it's something that should be appreciated...

It's a 72 year old record...

1. I just don't appreciate a franchise record when it comes to a team that means so little to me.
2. If anything, IMO it's a shame that such an old record is broken by someone who isn't nearly on the same kind of legendary level (and never should be).
3. It's only opinion to say it is the greatest pro sports team. Tradition and history maybe, but fuck the Yankees if they want to claim to be the greatest.

 

[PIP]

Just thought I would point this out, maybe most of it has been mentioned in the thread already, but I feel a connection with Lou after a report I did on him when I was 9:

• Derek Jeter needed over 500 ABS more than Gehrig to reach his milestone

• Jeter also has a career average (.317) 23 points below Gehrig's (.340!!!).

• Gehrig had more than twice as many HRs as DJ at the same point (498 to 223)

• Gehrig had almost twice as many BBs (1508 to 873), half as many Ks (790 to 1454), and 100 more 2Bs (534 to 437)

• Gehrig also led the Yanks to 5 World Series champions after turning 27, while Derek Jeter since entering his athletic prime has led the Yankess to exactly zero

• Lou was cut down by illness when he was still one of the top hitters in baseball, only a year older than DJ

Derek Jeter belongs 'in the same ballpark' as Gehrig, and he now has a nice Lifetime Achievement award. An excellent hitter and baseball player. But he is no Lou Iron Horse Gehrig.

I'm completely okay with suggesting Lou Gehrig was a better player than Jeter... That's not nearly the point..

It's as if some try to diminish the career of one of the greatest Yankees of all time when there's simply no need to do so...

1. I just don't appreciate a franchise record when it comes to a team that means so little to me.
2. If anything, IMO it's a shame that such an old record is broken by someone who isn't nearly on the same kind of legendary level (and never should be).
3. It's only opinion to say it is the greatest pro sports team. Tradition and history maybe, but fuck the Yankees if they want to claim to be the greatest.

- You don't have to

- Your opinion. I'm sure there's a player you admire, and the same would apply.

- Is an opinion.. Pretty much a general opinion regardless of the hate... Then again, fuck the haters..

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

 

[-Akronite-]

- You don't have to

Just saying what I said because you 1. wanted us to care 2. seemed somewhat offended that I didn't care and 3. tried to make a case for me caring/appreciate.

- Your opinion. I'm sure there's a player you admire, and the same would apply.

That one was more to get a rise out of you. Though based on the post I thanked, it seems that Jeter has gotten many hits moreso because he's been with the Yankees so long than his greatness as a Yankee.

- Is an opinion.. Pretty much a general opinion regardless of the hate... Then again, fuck the haters..

Again, I can understand making a claim for history, but to say greatest is an individual opinion, especially in this case since different sports will have varying allowances of a franchise's dominance. I mean, it's the general opinion that Jordan was the greatest ever. But, he had one regular timeline to look at while a franchise has an entire history to compare to other entire history's. Doesn't work well IMO to call any team "the greatest" without coming off as a homer. Semantics, I know, but it offends me at the core to see anyone touting pro-Yankees BS on a Cleveland forum (in the Tribe section no less).

You'll keep admiring him and I'll keep passing on him, really no more in the discussion here.

 

[The Oi]

We all seem to be ignoring this important fact:


Derek Jeter sucks.

 

[The Voice]

 

[Gimme Some Mo]

PIP, I don't think your a big hip hop fan by seeing your posts in other threads, so what is with the Young Money avatar?

I am assuming its supposed to be a Yankees avatar.

:shakehead at the resident Yankees fan.

 

[KB]

But can you really name 3 more high profiled athletes that has accomplished as much in such a clean fashion ?

The guy has won 4 titles, has quietly put up hall of fame numbers, while creating some of the greatest clutch plays of all time-- and has done so with class and dignity...You don't read negative press about Jeter.. He just keeps on producing, and does so in about as professional of a way as can be done..

The only other guy I can think of is Tom Brady, but he hasn't done it nearly as long... Peyton Manning hasn't won as much, Pujols hasn't won nearly as much... Jordan was pretty spectacular, but had gambling issues, Magic Johnson had issues... Maybe Larry Bird, Kareem, Gretzky and Emmitt Smith ?? but that was awhile ago..

The combination of years in, star status, winning, numbers, clutchness, and professionalism-- Jeter is above and beyond most...

This is hard to do and props to the Jeter guy.

In response to trying to name some other athletes like this, which is hard to do, I would say;

Current Dudes;

Tim Duncan and his side kick Tony Parker..I know they play together, but they both do whats needed and it's hard to say if Duncan wins the last 2 rings he got with out Parker.

Mike Vrabel when he was in the middle of the Pats D not to mention how he would line up at TE and only catch td's in clutch spots, including in 2 different super bowls.

if you count coaches I would have to count Mike Krzyzewski (not professional though, unless you count summer sessions with Team USA)

Older Dudes;

David Robinson
Hakeem Olajuwon
Joe Montana

 

[Sock]

A-Rod hits 2 HRs, drives in AL-record 7 in inning
By FRED GOODALL, AP Sports Writer
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=291004130&prov=ap

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP)—Alex Rodriguez(notes) hit a three-run homer on his first swing of the season and smacked a grand slam on his last. The New York Yankees slugger was pretty impressive in between, too.

Setting what he hopes will be the tone for a successful playoff run, Rodriguez homered twice and drove in an AL-record seven runs in a 10-run sixth inning Sunday, helping the AL East champions finish the regular season with a 10-2 victory over the Tampa Bay Rays.
We have one goal and it’s to win 11 games,” he said, looking ahead to the postseason. “If we get to 11 wins, that’s means we’re going to get contributions from everyone.”

On this day, he was a one-man wrecking crew.

Rodriguez hit a three-run homer off Wade Davis(notes), giving the Yankees a 3-2 lead. He added his 18th career grand slam later in the inning after Andy Sonnanstine(notes) issued an intentional walk to league co-home run champion Mark Teixeira(notes) to load the bases.

“It was awesome. That was a great inning for him and for the team,” Teixiera said. “It’s good to have a nice offensive output like that the last game of the season and give us some momentum.”

The previous AL record of six RBIs in an inning was accomplished 12 times, most recently by Boston’s David Ortiz(notes) on Aug. 12, 2008. The major league record is eight, set by Fernando Tatis(notes), who hit two grand slams in an inning for St. Louis on April 23, 1999.

New York, preparing to open the playoffs at home against Detroit or Minnesota on Wednesday or Thursday, finished with a 103-59 record, its best since 103-58 in 2002.

Tampa Bay dropped to 84-78 after going 97-65 last year and reaching the World Series for the first time.

A-Rod moved into a tie with Mark McGwire for eighth on the career list with 583 homers. It also gave him at least 30 homers and 100 RBIs for the 13th time— including the past 12 seasons—despite missing the first month with a hip injury.

“Unbelievable,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said. “He needed two homers and seven RBIs to keep his streak alive. It’s really pretty amazing. That’s the player he is.”

A.J. Burnett(notes) (13-9) pitched five innings for the victory, enabling the Yankees to avoid a weekend sweep.

Joba Chamberlain(notes), who could be headed for the bullpen for the first round of the playoffs, tossed a perfect inning in relief as Girardi continued to get the pitching staff ready for the postseason.

Girardi and general manager Brian Cashman will meet Monday to begin discussions on the playoff roster.

A year after making an improbable run to the American League pennant, the Rays finished 19 games behind the Yankees in the division. Evan Longoria(notes) scored both of the runs off Burnett, hitting his 33rd homer in the first and racing home on a passed ball to give Tampa Bay a 2-0 lead in the fifth.

Rookies Davis (2-2), Jeff Niemann(notes) and David Price(notes) combined for 25 wins and are part of the reason the Rays are optimistic about their prospects of returning to the top of the AL East next year.
New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain(notes) (62) throws in the seventh inning of a baseball game against the Tampa Bay Rays on Sunday, Oct. 4, 2009. The Yankees won 10-2.

New York Yankees pitcher Joba …
AP - Oct 4, 6:31 pm EDT

“There’s no doubt we’ll be right back in it, and our goal is to get to the World Series again in 2010. Period,” Tampa Bay manager Joe Maddon said. “Nothing else really matters in regard to our goal-setting.”

Rodriguez was sidelined until May 8 after hip surgery, then homered on the first pitch he saw from Baltimore’s Jeremy Guthrie(notes). He began Sunday with 28 homers and 93 RBIs and said the possibility of extending his 30-100 streak didn’t cross his mind until New York batted around in the sixth.

“I just didn’t think it was realistic at all, so therefore it wasn’t even a goal,” Rodriguez said.

“I was actually talking to (Eric) Hinske and I said I may have one shot. If they load the bases, I might pop one, you never know. I was just joking around, then I hit it.”

Yankees owner George Steinbrenner visited with the team for about an hour in the clubhouse before the game and later said he’s “excited” about the playoffs, which will start later this week.
New York Yankees' Alex Rodriguez(notes) (13) and Tampa Bay Rays catcher Gregg Zaun(notes) (9) watch the first of two sixth inning homers by Rodriguez leave the park. The second was a grand slam. The New York Yankees would plate 10 runs during the sixth inning in St. Petersburg, Fla., Sunday, Oct. 4, 2009.

New York Yankees' Alex Rod…
AP - Oct 4, 5:41 pm EDT

The 79-year-old Steinbrenner made the trip to Tropicana Field from his home in nearby Tampa for the second time this season. He also met with the players before a Yankees win in St. Petersburg on July 29.

“It was really great to see him. He was in good spirits,” Girardi said. “Said, ‘Just keep it going. Just keep doing what you’re doing.”’

NOTES: Teixeira and Tampa Bay’s Carlos Pena(notes) tied for the AL home run title with 39. … Yankees LHP Andy Pettitte(notes) wound up earning $10.5 million of the $12 million available under his contract—$500,000 more than the Yankees’ original offer of $10 million guaranteed that he failed to accept. Pettitte had a $5.5 million base salary, earned $3 million based on innings and $2 million for staying on the active roster the entire season. He missed $750,000 bonuses for 200 and 210 innings, finishing with 194 2-3. … The Rays sat All-Stars Jason Bartlett(notes) and Carl Crawford(notes). Bartlett finished with a career-best .320 batting average, a team record. Crawford, who batted .305, set the previous mark of .315 in 2007.

 

[PIP]

I too marvel ot Arod's greatness...

Playoffs next week... I cannot wait..If the Yankees make it to the ALCS, I'm heading back to the stadium to take in a couple games...