Potential destinations for Ramon Sessions

[TheDudeAbides]

Dear Reality,

Then I would not trade him. The odds of finding a better player than Ramon with the 25th pick in the draft are very very small. Even if he opts out the most the teams we are talking about needing him can offer is the mid-level. I would keep him for that price.

Also I was adding in a high 2nd round pick and Parker to the deal. The idea is Ramon is worth slighty more than a first to me, so give me the 2nd first and I give you back a pick that might be 10 picks or so later AND another useful piece.

Regards,
The Other Reality

Sorry but a 1st + swapping pick 32 for 26 is out of the question for Sessions. Dont you get it? Its TWO FIRSTS!!!

 

[Maximus]

Dear Reality,

Then I would not trade him. The odds of finding a better player than Ramon with the 25th pick in the draft are very very small. Even if he opts out the most the teams we are talking about needing him can offer is the mid-level. I would keep him for that price.

Also I was adding in a high 2nd round pick and Parker to the deal. The idea is Ramon is worth slighty more than a first to me, so give me the 2nd first and I give you back a pick that might be 10 picks or so later AND another useful piece.

Regards,
The Other Reality

It's not an issue of finding a better player than Ramon with the number 25 pick. The 25th pick is better than nothing, which is exactly what we will have this summer after Ramon opts out. Ramon wants more than mid-level money to stay in Cleveland to play behind Kyrie who will be playing 36mins+ for the forseeable future.

 

[czvo]

Not to mention, if its the Lakers pick, its probably going to be better than 25. Right now, the Lakers are hovering around the 20-21 range, and (my opinion having watched them play) I'd say the chances of them dropping in the standings are better than the chances of them moving up.

If you're telling me you wouldn't trade Sessions for a top-20 pick, then I'm sorry, I'm just going to have to call you insane.

 

[Dr. Gymbo]

Dear Reality,

Then I would not trade him. The odds of finding a better player than Ramon with the 25th pick in the draft are very very small. Even if he opts out the most the teams we are talking about needing him can offer is the mid-level.

You're basically saying two things.

One, that you're okay with potentially losing Ramon Sessions for nothing. Ramon Sessions is not a long term piece. So letting him potentially go for nothing does the team a gross disservice.

And two, that Ramon Sessions is going to hang around Cleveland for the mid-level, which is likely to be around $5.8M or so. Ramon Sessions' player option is for around $4.6M. So he's going to opt out of his contract for only around $1.2M more per year? Not likely. If Sessions opts out of his contract, Cleveland is not likely to retain him for the type of money he is going to want should he end his contract. I don't think Sessions is worth much more than what he is currently making, so why should we bid against ourselves and overpay him to stay here? Let's disregard money for a second. How many minutes do you think Kyrie is going to play per night? What about a possible long term SG we draft or sign this offseason?

Based on how Sessions plays, talks, and appears via body language when he is in a reserve role, I believe he would ultimately become a malcontent disruption. There are not going to be enough minutes to give him. Both statements are not the direction the Cavs need to take. You can find other backup PGs out there for around the price the Cavs pay for Sessions currently.

 

[Green Demon]

It really isn't a matter of us wanting to keep him for that price as has been mentioned numerous times he is going to want starter minutes or at least the opportunity for starter minutes somewhere and he will want at least MLE money. I can't see the Cavs offering either of those things to Ramon because next year Kyrie will continue to see his minutes increase to 35+ so that will obviously cut down on the amount of time that Ramon will be on the court. If Ramon continues to play at a decent level it really wouldn't be to surprising to see someone throw some money at him, so basically you take the chance of missing on the draft pick then just hanging on to Ramon and having nothing to show for it in a couple of months.

Also you're crazy if you think Ramon is worth more then a first.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Can't see them doing either trade for any reason at all

Disagree...with the news spreading that it appears JR Smith will be signing with the Knicks it makes one of those two expendable (most likely Fields). I wouldn't trade for either of them to be honest.

 

[AvonCavsFan]

Sessions has a player option for next year meaning he will opt out and get paid to play as a starter somewhere get paid to be a starter and play starter minutes. He isn't going to stick around and play second fidle for the hell of it. If he isn't traded he will opt out, hell he will probably opt out if he is traded. If you are even offered a first you take it, that would be like playing with house money.

What team needs a point guard than can offer him much money and a guaranteed starting job?

 

[Huber.]

What team needs a point guard than can offer him much money and a guaranteed starting job?

Are you even reading what we are saying? The Lakers and plenty of other teams would pay him more than we will.

 

[AvonCavsFan]

Not to mention, if its the Lakers pick, its probably going to be better than 25. Right now, the Lakers are hovering around the 20-21 range, and (my opinion having watched them play) I'd say the chances of them dropping in the standings are better than the chances of them moving up.

If you're telling me you wouldn't trade Sessions for a top-20 pick, then I'm sorry, I'm just going to have to call you insane.

If we trade them Sessions they will improve dramatically. They would go from have the worst PG situation in the league to at least average or slightly above average.

Look I get the reasons to trade him. And I am not in the front office. Maybe we know for sure he wants to leave..well then anything is better than nothing. But every time Byron talkes about him, he says how much he loves having him and that Ramon is willing to do whatever to help the team (maybe this is a smokescreen, maybe not). I personally think the Ramon, Kyrie backcourt can work for 15 minutes a night. Plus 12 to 13 min. backing up Kyrie gives him 27 to 30 min. a night. I think they looked very good together against the Pacers.

 

[AvonCavsFan]

Are you even reading what we are saying? The Lakers and plenty of other teams would pay him more than we will.

With what cap space will the Lakers pay him with? What other teams? Orlando? No Cap space. NY? They don't need him anymore. What other teams?

 

[MRMsix6]

If we trade them Sessions they will improve dramatically. They would go from have the worst PG situation in the league to at least average or slightly above average.

Look I get the reasons to trade him. And I am not in the front office. Maybe we know for sure he wants to leave..well then anything is better than nothing. But every time Byron talkes about him, he says how much he loves having him and that Ramon is willing to do whatever to help the team (maybe this is a smokescreen, maybe not). I personally think the Ramon, Kyrie backcourt can work for 15 minutes a night. Plus 12 to 13 min. backing up Kyrie gives him 27 to 30 min. a night. I think they looked very good together against the Pacers.

A smokescreen? lol

There is zero chance that Sessions is on this team for the long haul for a multitude of reasons. How is this not getting through to you?

 

[Bill Walton.]

Disagree...with the news spreading that it appears JR Smith will be signing with the Knicks it makes one of those two expendable (most likely Fields). I wouldn't trade for either of them to be honest.

The Knicks have Lin at point now, they don't need to trade any fields for a back up PG. Plus B-Diddy coming back whenever he does. So you think they're gonna trade one of the few young pieces they have had for the past 2 years for a 2nd maybe 3rd PG? The Knicks don't need much help at PG now that they have Lin

 

[MRMsix6]

LA, Orlando, and maybe Portland could be potential destinations. But nothing is going to happen until after the all star break when the Dwight Howard chip falls. If the Lakers can't acquire Dwight (and therefore don't have to give up their 1sts), I would bet money that they go after Sessions.

 

[BimboColesHair]

The Knicks have Lin at point now, they don't need to trade any fields for a back up PG. Plus B-Diddy coming back whenever he does. So you think they're gonna trade one of the few young pieces they have had for the past 2 years for a 2nd maybe 3rd PG? The Knicks don't need much help at PG now that they have Lin

notice the last few words in what I said....that is all

 

[mcfly]

The Knicks have Lin at point now, they don't need to trade any fields for a back up PG. Plus B-Diddy coming back whenever he does. So you think they're gonna trade one of the few young pieces they have had for the past 2 years for a 2nd maybe 3rd PG? The Knicks don't need much help at PG now that they have Lin

Anything NY gets from Baron is just a bonus because they cannot afford to rely on him for anything significant. NY needs to win now, Amare is not getting any young, and neither is Chandler. Plus, you act as if Sessions is some soon to be over the hill player, when in reality, the guy is only 25 years old.