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What will be the Browns win total?


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na complain like a motherfucker.. I cant understand how you get to the point of watching the games.. if you can do that, you earned the right..

ill tone it down, because im genuinely interested..



Im 28, I had one good season to watch while growing up (1994) and then the team moved. etc. etc. etc.. I personally cant find any interest in this, even though its by far the most popular sport in America. I adopted the buccaneers for a few years, but watching a team thatdoesnt represent your hometown can only last so long.

How do you guys stay excited? NFL is by far the most popular sport, but how can yo uwatch when your home team loses literally more than twice as much as it wins? When the cavs became a d league team, I still followed the roster changes and standings, but I couldnt watch it.. Its just mistery... I was already stressing out about how much time I missed and things I could have done better at bc I watched the cavs instead, and we almost won the whole thing.. I couldnt imagine sacrificing that for a team that consistently cant get it together..

Also, you cant deny the fact that its a slow game.. for every 120 seconds real time, theres maybe 10 seconds of play time.

basketball is the perfect sport imo. Always running, something always happening.. hundreds of points a night.. its soccer but on steroids..

I watch it because I can't help it. I was just old enough to remember the move, Bernie getting dumped, etc. and by the time they came back, I was bought in 100%.

They've been shit since then but I'm so attached to the city and team that I can't root for anyone else.

It's like when you're starving and get a cheeseburger, that cheeseburger is going to taste fucking amazing. Some day when the Browns pay off and don't blow, it's going to be amazing.

The problem is that you can only go so long before dying. And we're at almost 20 years at this point...
 
I watch for the same reason I'm on this site.... It's called being a fan of a team. I wouldn't consider casual watchers fans, even if they spend time on a messageboard that is supposed to be about sports.
 
na complain like a motherfucker.. I cant understand how you get to the point of watching the games.. if you can do that, you earned the right..

ill tone it down, because im genuinely interested..



Im 28, I had one good season to watch while growing up (1994) and then the team moved. etc. etc. etc.. I personally cant find any interest in this, even though its by far the most popular sport in America. I adopted the buccaneers for a few years, but watching a team thatdoesnt represent your hometown can only last so long.

How do you guys stay excited? NFL is by far the most popular sport, but how can yo uwatch when your home team loses literally more than twice as much as it wins? When the cavs became a d league team, I still followed the roster changes and standings, but I couldnt watch it.. Its just mistery... I was already stressing out about how much time I missed and things I could have done better at bc I watched the cavs instead, and we almost won the whole thing.. I couldnt imagine sacrificing that for a team that consistently cant get it together..

Also, you cant deny the fact that its a slow game.. for every 120 seconds real time, theres maybe 10 seconds of play time.

basketball is the perfect sport imo. Always running, something always happening.. hundreds of points a night.. its soccer but on steroids..

It's not easy to watch. I usually look for some silver lining, but sometimes it's hard to. The Browns don't usually get beat down so badly, their defense often makes them competitive in games. Sometimes, so it's not usually a total borefest.

I am getting tired of the NFL period. I used to love it, but Roger has virtually ruin the sport. Flags every damn play, there's so much you can't do anymore. It's just sloppy and the games drag on so much now because of it.

I tried watching some of the Vikings and 49ers game, but gave up. It was bad. Between that, and Chris Berman's horrible catch phrases that no one finds remotely clever and funny. I said enough is enough.

As for the Browns. I mainly watch because I'm still hopeful I might see a winning football team in my life.

It will make me appreciate it that much more, when/if it happens.

I can't watch a shitty Indians team because I don't like baseball enough. Overall, I do enjoy football as a sport. So I don't have a huge problem watching a shitty Browns team. Not my preference, but it's at least manageable.
 
I tried watching some of the Vikings and 49ers game, but gave up. It was bad. Between that, and Chris Berman's horrible catch phrases that no one finds remotely clever and funny. I said enough is enough.

That was miserable.. ESPN overall does a really good job with MNF, but Berman was bad. It went far beyond his dumb catch phrases too. Guy was saying the wrong names, stuttering, the whole package...
 
That was miserable.. ESPN overall does a really good job with MNF, but Berman was bad. It went far beyond his dumb catch phrases too. Guy was saying the wrong names, stuttering, the whole package...

The guy has been there for what? 25 years, and still does the same old shit that no one finds funny at all. Only ESPN would keep a hack like him around for so long.

He's awful. The guy probably wouldn't even be employed on any other network.

He even did a segment on all the different emotions of the SF coach. WTF, this isn't sportscenter you fat slob Berman, just stick to the game.
 
Without fans, the Browns play in front of an empty stadium on Sunday. They rely on the fans to generate noise to give the team home field advantage. If we, the fans, don't purchase tickets, gear, beer etc. then the league folds and none of the players matter. If the city doesn't agree to help fund the stadium, it doesn't get built. The team, its people and city are intertwined.

I don't say "we" as though I'm part of the team, I say we because the fans are an enormous part of what makes NFL teams tick and we're invested in it too. How many companies do you know that can put out absolute dogshit for almost 2 decades and thrive?

Hell, I'd argue that some fans are more a part of "we" than even some players. Do you think the fan running a backers club, supporting the Browns year-round and pouring money into tickets and time/energy into the team is less a member of "we" than a player who signs here because it's a job and plans on bailing the first chance he gets because he hates Cleveland? You probably do, but you're wrong.

"We" doesn't have to be an elitist term, especially in the NFL where the league itself talks about how integral fans are to what makes the game special.

My over-arching point isn't that you guys are doing anything wrong by calling it "we." I mean, I still think it's odd but it has less to do with that and more to do with...

I don't understand calling a team we that fucking sucks and embarrasses you. Like, why am I taking accountability for this business's failures when I'm not the one making the mistakes?

Same analogy I make when the Indians suck...If I like Pepsi and they suddenly start throwing dandelions and dirt in every can, I'm not associating myself with a shit product anymore. I'm either buying another product or I'm realizing soda isn't good for me anyways and sticking with water.

Browns have been so bad for so long that I can't fathom anyone associating with them. If they're good, I still won't call them "we," but I won't have to waste time answering questions about why the team I root for is shit.

The team you are rooting before has to be "we" and the other team has to be "they". If not, then you have to use "they" for every team, which is confusing.

I just call the teams by their names. For example...

"The Browns look like shit again. The Jets suck too, but not as badly as the Browns"
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

It always irks me when people say "we" in regard to teams they're not actually employed by or a member of.


I also hate when people start out their posts with clichéd colloquialisms.
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This team consistently makes this city the butt of jokes and as long as you put Siracha on these Cleveland Steamers, put them in your mouth and chew, they'll continue to suck.

This team needs a new name, color scheme, front office, coaching staff, and completely revamped roster. Just an embarrassment to the city in all respects.
 
This team consistently makes this city the butt of jokes and as long as you put Siracha on these Cleveland Steamers, put them in your mouth and chew, they'll continue to suck.

This team needs a new name, color scheme, front office, coaching staff, and completely revamped roster. Just an embarrassment to the city in all respects.
Cleveland Redskins time!!??!?!?
 
If they lose this week to the Titans, they are legitimately staring 2-14 or 3-13 in the face.
 
If they lose this week to the Titans, they are legitimately staring 2-14 or 3-13 in the face.

My fear exactly. If they can't win against two of the worst teams in football, it's going to get really ugly fast.

Some people are probably rooting for that I'm sure, but I'm not. A 2-14, or 3-13 is a serious step back, regardless where we are in the draft.

Just a disappointment all around if that happens.
 
The Delanie Walker injury is pretty big. That's Mariota's best weapon. I said this before: Winning on the road against the home team's opener is really tough. I still believe this Titans game is going to be a much better chance for a Browns win than the Jets game...



















Titans 20, Browns 6.
 
I've dropped them To 2-12.

As you can see, the Browns are moved to Las Vegas after the 14th game.

We get to keep the history though!!!!
 

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