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Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft but suspended for the first 5 games

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Going back to 1999, w/the exception of Rubin, Vickers, hell I'll even throw in Brandon McDonald, Harrison and Andra Davis, all of our picks have been a joke in the 5-6th rounds. you're telling me you wouldn't give up a 5th or 6th for a chance at Pryor?

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Better players than we draft in the 1st
 
Pryor never played at Youngstown State. It was only a matter of time before some of Tressel's rule bending there came to light as well.

But let me be clear, I support Tressel and I understand the notion behind turning a blind eye to his players getting a little change here and there. Unethical? By the archaic NCAA standards, sure. But the NCAA standards are simply broken. When the government tries to regulate things like health care, in the same fashion the NCAA is regulating athletes income, everyone flips out talking about how they are entitled to the best health care because they can afford it. Certain players in the programs, like a Pryor or a Cam Newton, put asses in the seats and take their teams to bowl and championship games as soon as they get on campus. How have they not earned the right to capitalize on that monetarily while playing?

The media sensationalizes these minor infractions that happen at every university. Personally, I think EVERY school has a program that bends the rules in some way shape or form to keep their players from robbing liquor stores like the group of football players did down here at University of Tennessee.

Im a traditionalist when it comes to sports, I want team before player, and I love the symbolism of amateur sports. In the same sense, I dont blame these guys for needing some money in their pockets at 18-22 years old. NCAA Players ARE BROKE while at school and complying with NCAA regulations as well as sacrificing their time during offseasons for OTAs and minicamps and all of that.

The system is broke, and Im personally tired of everyone making these kids out to be villains for getting table scraps and discounts on things that ordinary college students get any day.

There are musical prodigies who get scholarships, and still make money doing shows every weekend off campus. I had a guy in a class last semester who was driving a hummer, while on scholarship, and missing classes to do audio engineering at concerts in Nashville.

My whole thing is... yes, these guys are broke, but so are most of the other college kids on campus. Those other kids might not make the school money while they are there, but it's those doctors, those lawyers, those engineers that normally donate tons of $ to their alma mater after they graduate, not the athletes. So should those other kids get a piece of that pie when 1 of them donates hundreds of thousands of dollars after they graduate?

They're there to first and foremost, get an education. Whether that is in their minds or not, that's a fact. Whether that's "reality" or not is irrelevant, the main purpose of these places is to educate. It's the student-athletes' choice to go through what they go through to play sports. It's their choice when they decide to leave school early & take the risk of getting hurt & losing everything, without anything to fall back on. It's their choice when they take a 'ho-hum' major just to go through the motions when their intent is really on pro sports.

And do you really think ordinary college students get all that the student-athletes get?! Not even close. Student-athletes always get the special treatment because they make the school money & bring the school attention in the present. And it all starts in high school, sadly, when the teachers give these kids the benefit of the doubt when they should be failing or ineligible for the week (if that's what the school does).

The problem isn't the kids or the coaches or the teachers, per se, however. It's ESPN & the National Media that portray these student-athletes as if they're athletes 1st and the school is just the team they play for.
 
most of the other college kids on campus. Those other kids might not make the school money while they are there,

I dont get this. You say most of the college kids on campus are broke as well, but they dont generate the revenue that the athletes do for the University? It seems like that kinda answers why the student athlete should be entitled to more.

but it's those doctors, those lawyers, those engineers that normally donate tons of $ to their alma mater after they graduate, not the athletes.

First... who says the alumni donating money are mostly doctors, lawyers and engineers? What records are you referencing to support that stereotype/generalization of professional athletes as stingy and unwilling to contribute to Universities?

Second... these Doctors, Lawyers, and Engineers aren't having the revenue from their work, taken from them and spread around to other Doctors offices and to the President of their conferences and whoever else cuts up the money generated from their services.

So should those other kids get a piece of that pie when 1 of them donates hundreds of thousands of dollars after they graduate?

Again, I dont see the Litigation Club or the Surgical team generating millions per year in ticket sales, internet, TV and radio rights, and merchandise sales.

And I work at a State University.

They're there to first and foremost, get an education. Whether that is in their minds or not, that's a fact. Whether that's "reality" or not is irrelevant, the main purpose of these places is to educate. It's the student-athletes' choice to go through what they go through to play sports. It's their choice when they decide to leave school early & take the risk of getting hurt & losing everything, without anything to fall back on. It's their choice when they take a 'ho-hum' major just to go through the motions when their intent is really on pro sports.

So the games should be free or the cost of admission should be set low to cover the operating expenses of the team/club.

When you bring up "choice" its irrelevant. I didnt say this was forced slavery. However, there are rules in the NFL and NBA that prohibit grown men from making money at their profession until they have spent so many years out of high school. I like that rule for both leagues. However, I dont like athletes being restricted from making money while doing so.

I value my college education, but Im 28 and the harsh reality is that I havent earned my first million dollars yet. I've seen enough Terrell Pryor jerseys down here in Tennessee to feel that Terrell Pryor has probably already reached a million dollars in jersey sales alone.

Unless those were Malcolm Jenkins jerseys.

The notion that a college education SHOULD be worth so much, is not lost on me. However, it is lost on the guys who sign pro contracts and go from "earning" $15k or $12k for a basketball or football scholarships annually, to $50 million dollar signing bonuses and $12 or $15 million dollar guranteed contracts for NFL rookies and NBA rookies respectively.

You're older than 18 MoFlo...

You are offered contracts for your contributions to RealCavsFans. You can get 12-15k for moderating here for a year... while the site generates $50-75 million just from ticket sales and tv rights. And you cant go work for a penny more even if a site like ESPN comes calling Not for 3 years or so after RCF has made their money from you.

And do you really think ordinary college students get all that the student-athletes get?! Not even close. Student-athletes always get the special treatment because they make the school money & bring the school attention in the present. And it all starts in high school, sadly, when the teachers give these kids the benefit of the doubt when they should be failing or ineligible for the week (if that's what the school does).

My wife failed the kicker for the football team in one of her courses her first semester here. It was a Grad course that he shouldnt have been in, but still...(Kanye Shrug)

You seem comfortable passing judgements on students athletes behind some pretty broad generalizations. I could do the same and say that most athletes are Rhodes Scholar-like students like Myron Rolle.

The problem isn't the kids or the coaches or the teachers, per se, however. It's ESPN & the National Media that portray these student-athletes as if they're athletes 1st and the school is just the team they play for.

50 years ago, I would have agreed with this sentiment. Id bet that back then, before cable and internet, schools werent making as much from football and basketball games. We can blame ESPN and National Media... but then when I want to watch Akron vs Kent State, I turn to ESPNU to see the rivalry since I cant just drive down 76 and be there anymore.

They arent the devil. Its great that intercollegiate sports are growing like they are. But the rules need to as well
 
Pryor seems to me to be the classic case of a million dollar arm and a 10 cent head.
 
Just heard on ESPN that the Raiders took him. 3rd rd Pick
 
Pretty sure Oakland is interested.
They were so interested they gave up a third!

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The official language: The Oakland Raiders selected Terrelle Pryor, QB, Ohio State, in the 18th position of Round 3.

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There goes any chance he had of a productive career.
 
Yeah, the minute I saw that he ran a sub 4.4 40yd dash, I knew he would be a Raider...my prediction was actually a second rounder. Speed is to Al Davis what crack was to Pookie in New Jack City... "I tried to kick... but that shit just be callin' me man, it be callin' me, man... I just got to go to it!"
 
Yeah, the minute I saw that he ran a sub 4.4 40yd dash, I knew he would be a Raider...my prediction was actually a second rounder. Speed is to Al Davis what crack was to Pookie in New Jack City... "I tried to kick... but that shit just be callin' me man, it be callin' me, man... I just got to go to it!"

Raiders already don't have their 2nd or 4th round picks next year.
 
From a Raiders fan:

I seriously like this move a lot. He has potential and will have some time to sit and learn from Campbell and Edwards. He could become a great QB, just give him a couple of years. Definitly worth a 3rd rounder.

Poor guy has no idea.
 
Pryor might end up being the #1 QB next year because Campbell, Edwards and Boller are all FAs.

I'm excited, the kid has potential and the bar has been set remarkably low after JaMarcus.
 
The problem is that I don't think Campbell is interested in teaching and Pryor isn't interested in learning.
 
So what makes them think that he won't become Jamarcus Russell V2.0?
 

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