Shurmur and Heckert fired (ESPN)

[PIP]

Glad to see the Browns pulling from that strong San Diego Padres upper management juggernaut.....

 

[JMcCurry08]

La Canfora on Shurmur's future

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Of that coaching group mentioned- Jets expected to pursue Turner for OC job, and Shurmur could end up as Vikings OC</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/285435128598106112" data-datetime="2012-12-30T17:20:12+00:00">December 30, 2012</a></blockquote>
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[Clevelandfan15]

How perfect. Pat can go run the Vikes "kindergarten" passing offense with captain check down ponder and make it preschool. Vikes fans blood pressure will rise when Adrian Peterson gets 2 carries in the 2nd half. I'm gonna miss Pat.

La Canfora on Shurmur's future

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Of that coaching group mentioned- Jets expected to pursue Turner for OC job, and Shurmur could end up as Vikings OC</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/285435128598106112" data-datetime="2012-12-30T17:20:12+00:00">December 30, 2012</a></blockquote>
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[Phills14]

I like what Haslam and Banner are doing with the non-football side of things. Looks like they are bringing in high level difference makers on the executive level. The Browns, for too long it seems, have rested on the fact that they are the Browns and are owed loyalty by the fans. I always thought the organization was the worst run in town not just because of the play on the field but everything else that goes with integrating the team with the city. Their game day presentation is always terrible, they have an arrogance to them with regards to their fans and their PR department is awful. I'm looking forward to a better promotion of the Browns both locally and nationally, a better game day experience, creative ticket packages, better community outreach and a more buttoned up public/media relations department that actually teaches players/coaches/gms how to speak to the media.

On the football side- I remain extremely skeptical of the moves. I'm moving on from Heckert, even if I don't like it. If they hire Lombardi, I'm not sure I can be on board with the hire unless we see immediate success next year. Chip Kelly is a big boom or bust guy. He will either be great or a complete flop. Track record for guys with zero NFL experience is not good. Plus his system which is built on speed doesn't mesh with the offensive players on the roster. I think he'd be best to find a job in a warm weather climate (SD) or a dome team.

 

[Soar]

@MaryKayCabot: Cleveland Browns likely short list of GM candidates includes Arizona's Steve Keim and Buffalo's Doug Whaley

 

[Sly]

If it's really Lombardi/McDaniels, I'm not going to stop being a Browns fan, but I may just stop following and become a casual fan until they get their act together. If that's the best duo they come up with, screw it. It's such a bad pairing, I feel like it just has to be a joke though.

I really hope it's Chip Kelly. It's a new age of pro football. Some of the read-option has already been implemented in Washington, San Fran, and Seattle. I think it's worth the risk on a guy who I think is obviously an offensive mind ahead of his time.

 

[AZ_]

Doug Whaley is a guy I could get behind, pretty good history with Pittsburgh.

He and Chip Kelly could form an interesting pair.

 

[Goldin Brown]

I'd rather we just keep Heckert, but Doug Whaley is intriguing, I could live with him as the GM.

 

[The Voice]

Heckert is a solid but not spectacular GM. Not heartbroken he is leaving, though I do feel bad that Hologram screwed him over with the Shurmur hire and Weeden pick. It is possible for the Browns to do better (or do worse). Lets at least see some results before we shit on the new decision making.

You can't prove Heckert didn't want shurmer or Weeden and until you can this is a line of bullshit.

 

[AZ_]

You can't prove Heckert didn't want shurmer or Weeden and until you can this is a line of bullshit.

Consider the source, that's his whole schtick on this board.

 

[JMcCurry08]

Shurmur said in his press conference that he hasnt talked to Jimmy and Joe in quite sometime and hasn't been informed on a decision

 

[AZ_]

He also said the media should contact "league sources" to get a clue about his future.

Also that his post-game speech was between him and his team.

Always has been kind of a condescending prick to the media. Really not unhappy to see him go.

 

[Soar]

That post game interview was pretty depressing. Shurmur is a nice guy. Just not head coach material.

 

[chrisrich91]

Hate Shurmur. So happy that jackass is gone.

The Heckert firing is infuriating. Haslam is just like any other billionaire...conceited and stubborn. What a huge mistake.

Whaley would be a nice hire but Buddy Nix, GM of the Bills, is on the brink of retiring and I'm pretty sure Whaley is in line for that job. We're fucked.

 

[MDLT]

Hate Shurmur. So happy that jackass is gone.

The Heckert firing is infuriating. Haslam is just like any other billionaire...conceited and stubborn. What a huge mistake.

Whaley would be a nice hire but Buddy Nix, GM of the Bills, is on the brink of retiring and I'm pretty sure Whaley is in line for that job. We're fucked.

I won't go as far to say that Haslam fucked up bad with the Heckert firing, but he and Banner deserve the wrath that is forthcoming if things start to go awry quickly. Haslam/Banner can do what they think is best, but to dismiss Heckert after he's done a pretty damn good job means you have to live with the repercussions - and Browns fans have no issues with voicing their opinion. Bottom line, they better not have messed this up.

I've said it before, but Haslam's immediate hiring of Banner without (seemingly) any other real look at other candidates raises serious questions about Haslam, IMO. Again, maybe it's the right move but it seems strange that he locked into Banner so quickly. We'll see how it works out, but just because Lerner was bad doesn't mean Haslam will be a good owner.