So long, David Griffin

[supermario21]

So we are giving out awards for what we didn't do? Maybe they should give out best actor for passing on a shitty script?

I agree with you, but that is what a lot of the NBA writers and personalities are citing. Granted, I can't stand most of them, but that is one of their reasons. But you're right, GS literally stood pat with its core that it already had for 2+ years. With that logic, if we stand largely pat and win 65 games next season Griff should get it.

 

[spydy13]

The Ross Perot effect killed him. I don't know how they allowed people to vote for Coach Bud in Atlanta.

 

[ChicagoCavFan]

To go from lottery to 2 seed, and with all the roster turnover (directly related to GM) and new coach....any other team it is seemingly a lock.

 

[Jscc]

That's a fucking joke. That award was Griffin's to lose, not anyone else's to win.

 

[Splitz]

He really upped his bad ass quotient when he came out publicly in full support of Coach Blatt and then the team almost simultaneously began crushing fools until the end of the season. It's kind of sad that he wasn't a lock for this award.

 

[Paul]

I'm guessing he would have won if they did this vote a couple weeks ago. I think there's a black cloud over Cleveland's season right now and that probably unfairly affected the voting. JR isn't really looking like the great redemption story quite as much atm, and K Love being out for the year sours that trade as well.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

Blasphemy! What did Myers do this year? I'm sorry but Griff deserved the award.

He locked up Kyrie, he brought in Blatt, he created the cap space to sign LeBron, he traded for Love, he secured a valuable asset in the Haywood contract, he drafted a promising player in the 2nd round (Harris), and he traded garbage for Shumpert, Smith, and Mozgov. What a joke that he didn't get it.

That makes, like NO SENSE AT ALL. Myers did jack-sh*t, while Griffin essentially worked miracles. The midseason trades for Shumpert, Smith, and Mozgov were sublime. More evidence that the national media hate Cleveland.

 

[Adam]

That makes, like NO SENSE AT ALL. Myers did jack-sh*t, while Griffin essentially worked miracles. The midseason trades for Shumpert, Smith, and Mozgov were sublime. More evidence that the national media hate Cleveland.

Man Chris Grant has a lot of friends in the media

 

[K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's]

The level of DISRESPECT.......

This is blasphemous.

 

[clevelandrox23]

It's kinda cute how much you guys will go to bat for our gm, the loyalty of cavs fans is certainly there. Now to the question at hand, did Griffin deserve executive of the year? A lot of you act as if it was a no brainer while I see it differently.

Here is what our gm has done...

Traded Karasev, Jarrett Jack, Zeller & a 1st round pick to make space to sign LeBron James. I suppose he had to do what he had to do but it would've been nice to have somehow kept that 1st round pick. Jarrett Jack or even Zeller would look pretty good right now on this thin roster.

Signed Marion
No real impact don't blame him for trying though.

Mike Miller
No real impact, I guess he's a good cheerleader on the bench so there's that.

James Jones
Leadership, hits a few 3s, cool I guess.

Signed Anderson Varejao to a 3 year 30 million dollar extension while the Bulls got Pau Gasol for 3 years 21 million. Injured again, imagine that. D+

Traded the ROY Andrew Wiggins and a 1st round pick that will be in the teens for expiring contract Kevin Love who has by his own standards had a mediocre year. He had only one real signature game (game 3 against Boston, 2 real clutch 3s, 8-16 FG for 23 points) which is still laughable by comparison to a Kyrie signature game. He arguably didn't gel well with the team until the final month of the season. Makes trading for him at his highest price in the offseason instead of waiting a few months look even worse.

*If Kevin leaves the Cavs without us doing some sort of sign and trade it will no doubt go down as one of the worst trades in NBA history which will be compounded by how great Wiggins becomes.

Traded essentially Waiters for JR Smith, Shumpert & a protected 1st. By far the best trade he made. A+

Traded Memphis 1st round pick & protected 1st for Mozgov.
B

I forgot to mention the trade exception but I guess it really depends on what we end up doing with it if we end up doing anything significant with it at all. TBD.

I'd give Danny Ainge executive of the year before I'd give it to David Griffin. I suppose if you want to give a lot of the credit to Griffin for signing LeBron James than yes that would change things. But I believe that is beyond foolish, Griffin, and Blatt were just afterthoughts.

 

[Paul]

It's kinda cute how much you guys will go to bat for our gm, the loyalty of cavs fans is certainly there. Now to the question at hand, did Griffin deserve executive of the year? A lot of you act as if it was a no brainer while I see it differently.

Here is what our gm has done...

Traded Karasev, Jarrett Jack, Zeller & a 1st round pick to make space to sign LeBron James. I suppose he had to do what he had to do but it would've been nice to have somehow kept that 1st round pick. Jarrett Jack or even Zeller would look pretty good right now on this thin roster.

Signed Marion
No real impact don't blame him for trying though.

Mike Miller
No real impact, I guess he's a good cheerleader on the bench so there's that.

James Jones
Leadership, hits a few 3s, cool I guess.

Signed Anderson Varejao to a 3 year 30 million dollar extension while the Bulls got Pau Gasol for 3 years 21 million. Injured again, imagine that. D+

Traded the ROY Andrew Wiggins and a 1st round pick that will be in the teens for expiring contract Kevin Love who has by his own standards had a mediocre year. He had only one real signature game (game 3 against Boston, 2 real clutch 3s, 8-16 FG for 23 points) which is still laughable by comparison to a Kyrie signature game. He arguably didn't gel well with the team until the final month of the season. Makes trading for him at his highest price in the offseason instead of waiting a few months look even worse.

*If Kevin leaves the Cavs without us doing some sort of sign and trade it will no doubt go down as one of the worst trades in NBA history which will be compounded by how great Wiggins becomes.

Traded essentially Waiters for JR Smith, Shumpert & a protected 1st. By far the best trade he made. A+

Traded Memphis 1st round pick & protected 1st for Mozgov.
B

I forgot to mention the trade exception but I guess it really depends on what we end up doing with it if we end up doing anything significant with it at all. TBD.

I'd give Danny Ainge executive of the year before I'd give it to David Griffin. I suppose if you want to give a lot of the credit to Griffin for signing LeBron James than yes that would change things. But I believe that is beyond foolish, Griffin, and Blatt were just afterthoughts.

The Varejao extension (especially in hindsight obviously due to the injury) does look bad, especially considering we had TT looking to sign a big deal with the Cavs and it probably doesn't make sense to pay big money to 2 players who are extremely similar.

The Marion, Miller and Jones signings I think are reasonable. They are people that have a lot of experience and can help you build a winning culture. Unfortunately they all had big dropoffs this year (although maybe we see a rebirth in the playoffs?), which hurts, but they have had a lot of value as mentors to the young players. They can be phased out gradually, and aren't costing us much money.

Game 4 of the Celtics series has soured the JR trade a bit, but....

in spite of all of that, I still think Griffin did an amazing job. The team will probably not win it all this year, but they are certainly much stronger than they were a year ago or even 5 months ago. A young talented core is in place now, and 1 or 2 smart moves for quality free agents to augment our core, and we should be looking even better next year than we are now.

 

[Joe Henderson]

It's kinda cute how much you guys will go to bat for our gm, the loyalty of cavs fans is certainly there. Now to the question at hand, did Griffin deserve executive of the year? A lot of you act as if it was a no brainer while I see it differently.

Here is what our gm has done...

Traded Karasev, Jarrett Jack, Zeller & a 1st round pick to make space to sign LeBron James. I suppose he had to do what he had to do but it would've been nice to have somehow kept that 1st round pick. Jarrett Jack or even Zeller would look pretty good right now on this thin roster.

Signed Marion
No real impact don't blame him for trying though.

Mike Miller
No real impact, I guess he's a good cheerleader on the bench so there's that.

James Jones
Leadership, hits a few 3s, cool I guess.

Signed Anderson Varejao to a 3 year 30 million dollar extension while the Bulls got Pau Gasol for 3 years 21 million. Injured again, imagine that. D+

Traded the ROY Andrew Wiggins and a 1st round pick that will be in the teens for expiring contract Kevin Love who has by his own standards had a mediocre year. He had only one real signature game (game 3 against Boston, 2 real clutch 3s, 8-16 FG for 23 points) which is still laughable by comparison to a Kyrie signature game. He arguably didn't gel well with the team until the final month of the season. Makes trading for him at his highest price in the offseason instead of waiting a few months look even worse.

*If Kevin leaves the Cavs without us doing some sort of sign and trade it will no doubt go down as one of the worst trades in NBA history which will be compounded by how great Wiggins becomes.

Traded essentially Waiters for JR Smith, Shumpert & a protected 1st. By far the best trade he made. A+

Traded Memphis 1st round pick & protected 1st for Mozgov.
B

I forgot to mention the trade exception but I guess it really depends on what we end up doing with it if we end up doing anything significant with it at all. TBD.

I'd give Danny Ainge executive of the year before I'd give it to David Griffin. I suppose if you want to give a lot of the credit to Griffin for signing LeBron James than yes that would change things. But I believe that is beyond foolish, Griffin, and Blatt were just afterthoughts.

I don't care about the award either way, just wanted to point out that it's not really fair to split up the Shumpert/Smith/Mozgov trade. That was essentially Waiters+a 1st+2 nonguaranteed contracts (Kirk, Amundson) for two starters and a key rotation piece. That's important because it highlights the creative use of nonguaranteed contracts. And the second pick was only ever in the deal because Mozgov's asking price was two firsts.

Also on Mike Miller - he might yet have an important role. But more importantly, he was a key rotation piece on a strong playoff team last year. He wasn't brought in just to wave a towel. Also, by all accounts, he was the guy holding the locker room together in the dark days before the trade. If that's true, he doesn't have to step on the court again to justify his contract.

 

[CavsFanJapan]

Since this is voted on by other GM's around the NBA, I think this is more of a vote against Gilbert than it is about Griffin. Also, half the GM's are in the West and I am sure that had something to do with it thinking that GSW won 67 in a loaded West. I am not totally surprised by the result but it is disappointing looking at what Griff did this year.

 

[clevelandrox23]

Since this is voted on by other GM's around the NBA, I think this is more of a vote against Gilbert than it is about Griffin. Also, half the GM's are in the West and I am sure that had something to do with it thinking that GSW won 67 in a loaded West. I am not totally surprised by the result but it is disappointing looking at what Griff did this year.

Honestly after listening to former GM Tom Penn this offseason I don't know if one should place much stock into the intelligence level of GMs in the NBA. He suggested making moves that weren't even possible to make cap space for LeBron like releasing Dion Waiters or if I remember correctly Tristan Thompson as well. Plenty of smarter people out there that didn't know the right people or get the chance.

 

[Scrote Squad]

I exchanged a few tweets with Kevin Pelton on this subject. His argument was that Myers made moves in past seasons that paid off this year. I told him it should be changed to 'GM Lifetime Achievement of the Year' award.

His response was "There's a significant difference between lifetime achievement and moves made in previous seasons that pay off this season."

I think I'm right.