SOPA and Protect IP

[David.]

maybe im being cavalier (drunk gigglefit) but i dont think theyre going to do anything to downloaders and im paranoid as fuck about the internet. icefilms is good.. i was having issues downloading from those 2shared files until tonight.. i just use my 4g phone and connect it to the tv. downloaded human centipede in about 10 minutes.

restriction blocker is good, it gets past that wait at the 72 minute mark..if you have dsl you can just reset your modem and you have a new ip, youre a new person.. or you can get that add on and save a shit load of time and effort.. or you can just use your phone.. ive also heard some shit about usenet, which ill be researching tomorrow. IMO torrents fucking suck, at least when downloading onto the phone.

 

[gourimoko]

maybe im being cavalier (drunk gigglefit) but i dont think theyre going to do anything to downloaders and im paranoid as fuck about the internet. icefilms is good.. i was having issues downloading from those 2shared files until tonight.. i just use my 4g phone and connect it to the tv. downloaded human centipede in about 10 minutes.

restriction blocker is good, it gets past that wait at the 72 minute mark..if you have dsl you can just reset your modem and you have a new ip, youre a new person.. or you can get that add on and save a shit load of time and effort.. or you can just use your phone.. ive also heard some shit about usenet, which ill be researching tomorrow. IMO torrents fucking suck, at least when downloading onto the phone.

You hip to usenet bro? When I moved out of state, all I had was my 4g on my EVO and was pulling 1.2mbytes/sec off Sprint's 4g network.. Usenet.. The gentlemen's way to commit piracy.

 

[David.]

Lolol I just learned about usenet a few hours ago, still trying to wrap my brain around it..1.2 is really good when you think about it.full movies in ten minutes without not only not paying to watch, but paying for the dsl our cable internet to download it illegally

 

[Ohdang]

I typically pull about 1.8mbytes/sec off usenet, love it. Finding a way to search it that I don't hate is another story.

 

[gourimoko]

I typically pull about 1.8mbytes/sec off usenet, love it. Finding a way to search it that I don't hate is another story.

Nzbmatrix.. But if it'a not there: binsearch.info (it'll be there).

 

[Powerslave]

A few interesting facts about Kim Dotcom/Kim Schmitz, the Megaupload founder:
• 37 years old, 6’7”, 300lbs. Looks like a big German nerd.

• Nickname: Dr.Evil
• Owns a $30 million property in New Zealand, another $8.9 million in various bank accounts.
• Has 18 luxury cars valued at $4.9 million. Many of the cars had vanity license plates – a Rolls Royce with was “God” and a Mercedes AMG was “Hacker”, another “Mafia”. He is known to drive them up to 320 km/hr. on private roads
• When police raided his house (more than 70 officers involved with 2 helicopters), they had to cut him out of an electronically locked “safe room”.
• Megaupload was visited by 50 million people a day before it got shut down
• Criminal record: 2 year suspended prison sentence for hacking, theft of trade secrets at banks and utility companies, pleaded guilty to embezzlement in 2003 (given probation). He later started a website called Kill.net in an effort to combat terrorism by recruiting hackers.
• Enjoyed New Year’s Eve by watching the fireworks from his private helicopter, paying $500,000 for the night

 

[Ohdang]

Nzbmatrix.. But if it'a not there: binsearch.info (it'll be there).

I use binsearch already, some stuff I want it has, others I've had to resort to torrents

 

[Maximus]

A few interesting facts about Kim Dotcom/Kim Schmitz, the Megaupload founder:
• 37 years old, 6’7”, 300lbs. Looks like a big German nerd.

• Nickname: Dr.Evil
• Owns a $30 million property in New Zealand, another $8.9 million in various bank accounts.
• Has 18 luxury cars valued at $4.9 million. Many of the cars had vanity license plates – a Rolls Royce with was “God” and a Mercedes AMG was “Hacker”, another “Mafia”. He is known to drive them up to 320 km/hr. on private roads
• When police raided his house (more than 70 officers involved with 2 helicopters), they had to cut him out of an electronically locked “safe room”.
• Megaupload was visited by 50 million people a day before it got shut down
• Criminal record: 2 year suspended prison sentence for hacking, theft of trade secrets at banks and utility companies, pleaded guilty to embezzlement in 2003 (given probation). He later started a website called Kill.net in an effort to combat terrorism by recruiting hackers.
• Enjoyed New Year’s Eve by watching the fireworks from his private helicopter, paying $500,000 for the night

So the corporations that are trying to protect THEIR product that THEY invented, developed, created or whatever are greedy. But, this guy above, who doesn't do the work and just steals other people's products is a "boss" and not greedy?(he makes $50M+ a year btw)
Interesting...

 

[caf]

So the corporations that are trying to protect THEIR product that THEY invented, developed, created or whatever are greedy. But, this guy above, who doesn't do the work and just steals other people's products is a "boss" and not greedy?(he makes $50M+ a year btw)
Interesting...

This guy above doesn't steal other people's products. His product is online file storage and sharing. He isn't uploading copy written material, his users are. His product is completely legal if his users do not upload illegal material.

 

[DDJ7777]

This guy above doesn't steal other people's products. His product is online file storage and sharing. He isn't uploading copy written material, his users are. His product is completely legal if his users do not upload illegal material.

Just like a pimp doesn't have sex with people, he just provides the opportunity to do so? lol

 

[gourimoko]

Wait wait wait.... these last few posts don't make sense.. Megaupload like cafemerald said is a file hosting site. It is no different than say Amazon Cloud Services; just more well known (and far less useful, lol). But the point being is that Megaupload merely housed user data and allowed users to share their data with others, either publicly or privately. They are under no obligation to police the content of their users because doing so would be prohibitively expensive, if not impossible. Why? Here's why:

I'm a pirate (hypothetically speaking), I want to distribute RAD Studio XE2 (great product) Architect Edition (MSRP $4,299, I personally and professionally use this product daily). Most Delphi/C++/PHP developers cannot afford the complete studio, so either buy smaller versions or look to find pirated versions online, so there is a need. Now the product is normally distributed as a large download (approx 1.9gb DVD ISO IIRC). As a pirate, I'm going to break this file into pieces in a RAR package of any ambiguous name "Embarcadero.RAD.Studio.XE2.Architect_FUXORGRP.rxx" and then distribute across multiple channels with my trojan'd out keygen (building up my zombie net over all woeful xp32 users). Initially dropping it on a few compromised university servers to act as superseeders for my torrent, uploading from these same owned servers onto usenet, and yes, hitting up the private and public file sharing forums and posting links for those needing HTTP direct downloads (for various reasons, including ISP lockdown in other countries).

So why is it tough to police this? Well, because most people won't use Megaupload to download the file, but will use a torrent -- meaning, the file will still propagate the net; however, there will always be a select group that needs HTTP direct downloading so there will be a strong motivation to house the file onto a file sharing site even if the file name has to be masked and the RAR's encrypted with a password preventing snooping. Point being that someone, probably in China, will exploit an American kid's/mom's PC, create a reverse tunnel, use their new-found U.S. based internet access to download my torrent and then use that same access to upload to MegaUpload/RapidShare (whatever) so that now, everyone else in China (or Iran, or wherever) can use their browsers (with only ports 80/8080 open) to download this $4k American product.

Therefore, what's to be done by MegaUpload or any of the file sharing sites that offer community based data storage? They cannot prevent copyrighted material from being housed on their servers because the data will just become encrypted and the filenames will be masked with either unintelligible MD5 hashes only cipherable by the users of the particular forums where the password is also available or just scene names like RZR1911_Rel2_4-29.RXX..

I've never seen Megaupload advertise directly to pirates; ever. And AFAIK, they've always complied with requests to remove suspected content, even if that content was encrypted - (they can find the forums, find the subsequent posts, pull the content and see it's actually a scene release). But Megaupload is known throughout the pirate community (including RapidShare) as one of the sites that will routinely delete content that's flagged as pirated material. It's just that MegaUpload was less restrictive towards the public (free) userbase than RapidShare and thus became more popular and drew ire.

But ultimately, to make a long story short, unless the lobbying groups behind SOPA/PIPA are willing to (and they are) have the government packet sniff every internet user in the United States to prevent software piracy - this shit won't stop. And even if they go down that road, you'll simply see companies like Mozilla and Google release secured versions of Firefox and Chrome. Google already is defaulting users to their SSL version of Google.com, which I think is fantastic.

 

[CPK]

A really well done post gourimoko.

 

[David.]

gouri, almost figured usenet out, if you could help me connect a couple dots I'd really appreciate it..

Ive got Plex up and running (finally) and cleared out about 20g of porn. insane. i have a giganews account and use binsearch to find my nzb's.. heres where im all fucked up.

After the file downloads, it shows up as a rar file most of the time (unless im confused and ill confirm this..) if i extract this, the end result is just a dummy file.. it doesnt play with any of my media players and plex doesnt recognize it. what am I doing wrong?

edit: i was being dumb and not looking at what kind of files i was downloading. Now how the fuck do i get these into plex??? It doesnt like any of my media..

 

[Chardon]

405 people have been killed as a result of SOPA so far.

 

[gourimoko]

gouri, almost figured usenet out, if you could help me connect a couple dots I'd really appreciate it..

Ive got Plex up and running (finally) and cleared out about 20g of porn. insane. i have a giganews account and use binsearch to find my nzb's.. heres where im all fucked up.

After the file downloads, it shows up as a rar file most of the time (unless im confused and ill confirm this..) if i extract this, the end result is just a dummy file.. it doesnt play with any of my media players and plex doesnt recognize it. what am I doing wrong?

edit: i was being dumb and not looking at what kind of files i was downloading. Now how the fuck do i get these into plex??? It doesnt like any of my media..

I'm assuming you downloaded only the PAR files, and not both the PAR and RAR files.. The two file types are unrelated, even though they rhyme and have alphabetically adjacent acronyms.

Brief history lesson is needed (I'm long-winded so I'll keep it concise): Back in the day usenet "newsgroup" based piracy was done over standard messages that were channeled server-to-server and then retained (at different lengths) by each server for their various users to download. Most usenet servers were open, and didn't require much authentication, let alone charge a fee. When binary posting began (by "uuencoding" the files to convert them to the 7-bit ASCII charset) that all changed. But the system, even to this day, is not designed for large binary downloads; it's still, by design, for small e-mail style messaging in a "forum" or group container. So what ends up happening is post corruption, which is most often the result of your server not having (due to retention or upload error) one of the hundreds of component posts that make up your file. Back in the day (90's) there wasn't really any solution except finding the corrupt pieces and downloading alternative sets from other servers..

These days we use PAR files. PAR files work in an identical manner to RAID-4 (similar to RAID-5); in fact, I would venture to guess that RAID-4/5 was the inspiration for the idea. The program par.exe (short for parchive) creates a parity table for sequential blocks within a set of files in a directory, creating a large set of PAR(ity) files that, when packaged with the original source content, allow for a great deal of error correction even if a substantial amount of data is missing.

So, to the point, when you download a "collection" from Binsearch, select all the files to be included within the NZB (rar, nfo, par, and par2 files). When everything is downloaded, your usenet downloader (hopefully you're using SabNZBd and not anything else) should automatically invoke unpar.exe to verify, and if damaged (very often the case), repair the original archive using the par files. Once this process is completed, the PAR files can be (and are usually automatically) deleted and the RAR files are decompressed. Then the RAR files are usually deleted as well, leaving only the original content.


Any questions?