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The 2015 Cleveland Indians

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Rob said:
Look at the Red Sox. Fired Francona after 2011.
In 2012 they were garbage.
2013 they win the World Series.
2014 and 2015 they are garbage again.

Things can change very quickly in baseball.
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Red Sox probably not the greatest template to show Indians fans that things can change fast.
 
I would like to see before and after stats of teams that fired their hitting coaches. My guess is firing Van Burkleo still doesn't change the fact that Swisher and Born are on this team.
 
Huber. said:
I would like to see before and after stats of teams that fired their hitting coaches. My guess is firing Van Burkleo still doesn't change the fact that Swisher and Born are on this team.
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You're all so focused on those two, like the rest of the crew is producing. The only guys performing are Kip and Brantley.
 
Lord Mar said:
Murph wasn't doin' so bad.........
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Because he is platooning, which sets you up for success...it's why Raburn is much better this year as well, whereas last year, when he sucked, they had him in against lefties and righties because of what he did in 2013.

Still doesn't change the fact that the majority of our hitters seem to have gotten worse the past few seasons and that the approach at the plate these guys show on a game by game basis is a major reason why they can't score runs...which falls on the hitting coach, or in this case the hitting coaches.
 
Maybe Kipnis should be the hitting coach ?
 
I bet firing the hitting coaches changes everything. I say hire Jim Leyland as hitting coach- by tomorrow, Santana will be hitting the other way, Brandon Moss will start hitting jacks again, Yan Gomes will get uninjured, and those youngsters will stop being coddled. Also no more of this 'work the count' shit- swing at the best pitch you see and hit it. Fair. Unless the pitcher doesn't throw the best pitch for awhile, then work the count.
 
I really don't understand the adage of lefties not being able to hit lefties and righties not being able to hit righties but they can hit each other.

When I played, I sucked equally against both.
 
macbdog said:
I bet firing the hitting coaches changes everything. I say hire Jim Leyland as hitting coach- by tomorrow, Santana will be hitting the other way, Brandon Moss will start hitting jacks again, Yan Gomes will get uninjured, and those youngsters will stop being coddled. Also no more of this 'work the count' shit- swing at the best pitch you see and hit it. Fair. Unless the pitcher doesn't throw the best pitch for awhile, then work the count.
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No one suggesting that the hitting coaches should be fired is saying it will fix everything. Don't be a condescending dick.

The whole point of the suggestion is to get a new set of eyes on these a guys and a new voice in their heads. The approach this team has had all year has been terrible, and that falls on the hitting coaches going all the way back to Spring Training and what they told the players to work on.

Just go look at our spray charts if you don't believe me. We pull the ball more than a team with limited HR threats should, and it shows when we have runners on base and guys are up there trying to do too much instead of going gap to gap. We pull the ball as much as the best HR slugging teams in the league, but hit a staggering lower rate of HRs per fly ball than those teams...that's just wrong, and that approach hasn't changed all season. It can't all be just the players going out there and trying to go Adam Dunn on every pitch.

Sometimes a new set of eyes is a good thing. The Royals, with all their young talent like the Indians have, fired their hitting coach early on last year, and they've been a different team offensively ever since. This isn't some first time, random fix that has never worked in professional baseball being suggested here.
 
Stark said:
I really don't understand the adage of lefties not being able to hit lefties and righties not being able to hit righties but they can hit each other.

When I played, I sucked equally against both.
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I don't think it's that they CAN'T hit against same handed pitchers, just in today's MLB where there are larger roster sizes and larger bullpens with situational pitchers, the ability to always have a R on L or L on R matchup is used more. The "platoon" is a relatively new occurrence in baseball.

Speaking as a lefty myself, I hated facing other lefties. Forced me to try to go oppo way more than I like, since everything moves away from you, so it opens a huge hole in your swing on anything inside if you get down in the count.
 
Hearing some sort of roster move is forthcoming.
 
AZ_ said:
Hearing some sort of roster move is forthcoming.
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World Series?

Was that Matt Kemp scenario you mentioned just your idea or is there any rumblings about that? That would need to be done during the off-season, correct?
 
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