The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[spydy13]

Well, with Breaking Bad over, the title of "Best Show on TV" pretty much became up for grabs, and while I agree there's plenty of solid stuff on the air, there's really nothing that feels as significant as Breaking Bad or The Wire did when I was watching them the first time.

I agree that there's a lot of solid, but not spectacular stuff on the air right now. I think Better Call Saul is trending in that direction, but hasn't quite hit that point. I thought in the absence of a clear choice that Mad Men would get the nod as a sendoff to a quality series.

 

[Adam]

I think the last season of GOT made them realise how good the previous season were and reminded them it deserved to win. Lets hope they bounce back this year

 

[CardiacCavs]

That would kind of contradict Martin's quotes about how Targs aren't immune to fire, though. He's on record as saying what happened to Dany was a miracle and not indicative of an inherent fire immunity among the Targaryens. Further, a bunch of them died in the huge fire at Summerhall, and I'm pretty sure one died drinking wildfire.

This is all true. But it got me thinking. When Dany was "born amidst salt and smoke" and her dragons hatched, she sacrificed Miri Mraz Durr(sp?) to the fire which I think contributed to her inability to be burned by the fire, and the hatching of the eggs. I'm not entirely clear on how the magic of that particular moment worked out, but maybe it had some connection to R'hllor. Who else was burned at a pyre to appease R'hllor and we have not had any inclination of its ramifications? Shireen. Is it possible that the burning of Shireen could somehow lead to Jon's resurrection through fire? It's not beyond reason that the magical potential of burning Shireen, who was about as powerful a sacrifice of "King's blood" you can have, could lead to more miraculous feats than simply burning a magi.

This is different than IKWT's original theory as mine has less to do with a Targaryen immunity to fire, but more to do with how the Red God's special version of magic, sacrifice, and rebirth works.

 

[Jack Brickman]

 

[Kbiz]

I think the last season of GOT made them realise how good the previous season were and reminded them it deserved to win. Lets hope they bounce back this year

I don't think it's a matter of bouncing back but rather last season detailed a transitionary stage of the entire book saga. Huge story lines had previously wrapped up (Joff dying, Free Folk vs. Night's Watch, Lannister family fall) setting up necessary exposition angles for the conclusion of the entire series, which when compared to past seasons, seemed a little meh.

As a book reader, i have mixed feelings about next season, assuming TWOW will not be released before Season 6. I am excited about the end game starting to set up but frustrated i won't experience it through Martin's words first. IMO, knowing character's internal dialogues makes watching the show much more engrossing.

 

[kosis]

Major book/show spoiler below (but something we all pretty much expect):

Spoiler

Jon in Stark gear

 

[Chris]

Feels weird seeing story advances.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Filming Tower of Joy this week. Apparently the kid who plays Bran is on set. So sounds like we'll def be seeing it through one of his greenseer visions.

 

[CardiacCavs]

That show spoiler posted by Kosis was the first time in this thread I really hesitated to look at a spoiler. Really having to take a hard look at what my spoiler/unsullied values really are. You could justify looking at show spoilers in the past because you already knew what was going to happen. Now you are just legitimately spoiling yourself on major plot points that we really have no definite idea about.

So tempting though.

 

[kosis]

That show spoiler posted by Kosis was the first time in this thread I really hesitated to look at a spoiler. Really having to take a hard look at what my spoiler/unsullied values really are. You could justify looking at show spoilers in the past because you already knew what was going to happen. Now you are just legitimately spoiling yourself on major plot points that we really have no definite idea about.

So tempting though.

Yeah, I hesitated posting because I'm not sure how we view those. I'm just so prone to going to GoT news sites that I can't imagine censoring myself at this point. Just happens that now the proper story is getting slightly spoiled. Maybe I'll just avoid posting that stuff in the future.

 

[Chris]

Yeah, it's really not even much of a spoiler, but cool nonetheless.

I'm pretty liberal with spoilers anyways, don't have a ton of willpower to not read them so I usually just read them. It doesn't ever cheapen the experience for me.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Yeah, it's really not even much of a spoiler, but cool nonetheless.

I'm pretty liberal with spoilers anyways, don't have a ton of willpower to not read them so I usually just read them. It doesn't ever cheapen the experience for me.

Yeah, same here at this point.

 

[CardiacCavs]

Yeah, it's really not even much of a spoiler, but cool nonetheless.

I'm pretty liberal with spoilers anyways, don't have a ton of willpower to not read them so I usually just read them. It doesn't ever cheapen the experience for me.

I don't know man. Seeing

Spoiler

Jon in Stark gear kinda confirms a pretty big theory that Jon will leave the Night's Watch and pursue his goals regarding being a Stark. We don't know the specifics but that is pretty huge in my opinion. He has been a member of the NW for nearly the entire series, and this means that he will finally break his vows permanently. (kind of a side-bar, but I always thought the idea that because he "died" then he is released from his vows to the NW, to be a lame loophole, but that's just me.) To me, it also confirms that he will rally Northern houses around Sansa or Rickon. There are a lot of conclusions that can be made from even this little bit of information.

I still couldn't resist looking.

 

[Chris]

So it confirms a theory almost everyone believed? That's kind of my point. It's like R+L=J being confirmed. "Coo." would be my reaction.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I mean, I've always thought that Jon dying at the end of the fifth book was a very convenient way to get him out of his Night's Watch vows. He technically died, and his watch was until his death, so he's officially off the hook, even if he's resurrected.