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The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

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It was very sad that she was killed considering her life, but Jon had no real choice. Tyrion was right -- Danaerys speech to the Unsullied and Dothraki made it very clear that she was going to fight more battles -- he list of targets actually included Winterfell itself.

My pre-show prediction was that it was going to be portrayed as sort of temporary insanity, and that she'd be so distraught over what she'd done that she'd leave Westeros and return to Essos. But as it turned out, it wasn't temporary at all.

Bitch had to be put down, and she was.

I also thought she was going to go back to Essos but not after the burning of Kings landing. After I rewatched the finale, her last speech to Jon is pretty clear that she didn't see anything she did as bad. She says it in a calm voice and it was the same stuff she has always said. After her actions of burning Kings landing those same words feel completely different and are just as scary as her speech to the unsullied and the Dothraki.
 
I also thought she was going to go back to Essos but not after the burning of Kings landing. After I rewatched the finale, her last speech to Jon is pretty clear that she didn't see anything she did as bad. She says it in a calm voice and it was the same stuff she has always said. After her actions of burning Kings landing those same words feel completely different and are just as scary as her speech to the unsullied and the Dothraki.

Yep. Her acting was so good in those scenes. In her mind, what Dany did to King's Landing was no different than what she did to the slave masters. Everyone else can see the massive line being crossed, but she couldn't. Emilia Clarke was extremely convincing.

She has a vision for the world, but that vision would come at the price of the world. When Jon realized it, it was easy to kill her. Very similar to Thanos in a few ways.
 
Agreed. Though I’d almost prefer your ending.

The major reason I thought it would happen that way is rather "meta" -- I didn't see any plausible way that another war/battle with the Dothraki and Unsullied could be avoided if Danaerys was murdered. They'd want revenge. And given that it was the very last episode of the series, and we knew that the big battles were limited to Episodes 3 and 5, that battle couldn't happen. So...she couldn't be killed, and leaving Westeros was the most plausible alternative.

Instead, the showrunners just waved away the problem of the Dothraki and Unsullied wanting revenge, and had them just board ships peaceably for Essos. Made zero sense to me, but it enabled them to kill Danaerys and bring the series to a conclusion in the same episode.
 
Letting her leave to Essos is just Jon letting her go kill millions more.

Sort of. She had already conquered it, and the people there worshipped her. I'd argue she would have been a great queen there had she never come to Westeros.

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, the idea of her leaving to go back would have prevented the whole "how would her army and dragon react to her murder" conundrum. The show decided to just skip all of that and somehow assume that two of the most savage, destructive forces in the world took a peaceful prisoner and came to a negotiation table with nobles they had no kinship with or much respect for.

Her leaving would have explained her massive force not going ballistic and murdering everything.

Given Gray Worm's state of mind and new position of commander of her forces, I just find it incredibly hard to believe that he wouldn't have wanted to pick up where she left off and continue conquest in her name, particularly first by going North to destroy the land that supported the man who murdered his queen.

I really didn't like the inconsistencies his character showed this season, particularly after Missendei's death.

EDIT: Tip beat me to it.
 
So I've watched the episode 3 times now and one thing I can't tell is if it's snowing in King's landing or it's ash. Like I thought it was ash at first but it seems like snow and looks completely different from what it looks like at the end of episode 5.
 
Has there ever been a bigger disconnect/discrepancy between what fans predicted/theorized/thought Bran would do and how he would affect the plot (“He’s the Night King,” “He’s the Lord of Light,” “He’s affected all the actions of everyone up to this point including the Mad King’s, etc.”)

...and what he wound up doing which is fuck all for 6 episodes—talked about wheelchair history, rolled his eyes back in episode 3 and did who the fuck knows, stared at Jamie and everyone else.

Something, ANYTHING at the end would have been something. Maybe he makes a facial expression, smirks, chuckles suggesting something, maybe there’s a flashback to what he was doing in episode 3 or other episodes, maybe he actually finds Drogon and we see the dragon taking Daenerys back someplace, maybe he wargs into some wildlings and they stab Jon, create a new Night King, maybe there’s a scene with him alone in a room, warging into the past to show what he has done.

How the hellcould he have wound up doing nothing? And how do these other people accept him as King? Do they even know what he csn do? How do they know? Could be demonstrated easily, but did he?
 
Lolol. Drogon would have and should have roasted Jon.

Lord. Even managing to get the dragons out of character.
Hard disagree here. Perhaps it wasn't as apparent in the show (honestly can't remember), but this would be perfectly reasonable for an ASOIAF dragon.

Dragons in the books are hyper intelligent creatures, and according to some Maesters, have a level of intelligence equal to humans. One of the gifts the Warlocks offer to Dany in the HotU is to learn the secret language of dragons. It's not unreasonable for Drogon to identify the culprit of his mothers madness and rage against it.

I really loved that moment.
 
Hard disagree here. Perhaps it wasn't as apparent in the show (honestly can't remember), but this would be perfectly reasonable for an ASOIAF dragon.

Dragons in the books are hyper intelligent creatures, and according to some Maesters, have a level of intelligence equal to humans. One of the gifts the Warlocks offer to Dany in the HotU is to learn the secret language of dragons. It's not unreasonable for Drogon to identify the culprit of his mothers madness and rage against it.

I really loved that moment.

Agreed. To your point about intelligence, Drogon didn't actually see Jon kill Danaerys, and the last he knew, they were very close with each other and Jon was an ally -- and a Targaeryen himself. For all Drogon actually saw, someone else could have killed Danaerys and Jon was a fellow mourner holding the body. So Drogon must have deduced what happened.
 
Agreed. To your point about intelligence, Drogon didn't actually see Jon kill Danaerys, and the last he knew, they were very close with each other and Jon was an ally -- and a Targaeryen himself. For all Drogon actually saw, someone else could have killed Danaerys and Jon was a fellow mourner holding the body. So Drogon must have deduced what happened.

I'm assuming it was more because of Targaryen blood than anything else...
 
So Bran orchestrated this whole thing. He was able to push Dany to madness in order to get Jon to kill her which them got Jon out of the way and back on the Wall.

Could have said "Jon if you tell her she will kill everyone in Kings landing".

Instead he did everything in just such a way that he improbably sat on the throne.
 

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