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Browns defend trade up for Richardson

The Browns, like most NFL teams, never met a draft they didn't like.

General manager Tom Heckert went into the 2012 draft with 13 picks in his pocket and after two trades ended up making 11 choices. He took six players on offense - most notably his first three picks - and five on defense.

True to the plan set forth at the start of free agency, the Browns "stayed the course." They did bundle three late picks to move up one slot so they could be assured of taking running back Trent Richardson, but in what they hope results in a brighter future the Browns held onto picks 22, 37 and all their first-round picks going forward.

Browns president Mike Holmgren was miffed by reports claiming the low picks were basically given away. One day after the trade for the third pick an Internet story referencing unnamed team executives said the Vikings were bluffing when they said other teams were trying to move up to the third spot.

"Contrary to what was written and what was said, we had to compete for that," Holmgren said. "We weren't the Lone Ranger in that deal. We had to compete. I thought it was an excellent trade because we got the player who's going to be, Lord willing if he stays healthy and all those great things, a really fine player for us for a long time."

In the days that followed, Vikings general manager Rick Spielman said the Internet story was inaccurate.

"We did have offers on the table, I can tell you that," Spielman told the St. Paul Pioneer-Press on Tuesday. "I'm not going to tell you who or what. But I will say Cleveland did the right thing."


The entire Browns draft would have unfolded differently had Tampa Bay or another team jumped up to three to take Richardson. Had they stayed at four, the Browns would likely have taken wide receiver Justin Blackmon if Richardson was off the board.

Heckert would have had a decision to make with the 22nd pick - take quarterback Brandon Weeden, as he did, or use the choice on Doug Martin or David Wilson. The pair of running backs went back to back to Tampa Bay and the Giants respectively with picks 31 and 32.

Assuming the Browns would have taken Weeden after Blackmon, they would have missed out on each of the top three running backs by the time their turn came around again at 37. They used that pick on right tackle Mitchell Schwartz.

The Browns expect Richardson, Weeden and Schwartz to start. They also expect major contributions from fourth-round linebacker James-Michael Johnson from Nevada.

"He's one of those linebackers that have position flexibility," head coach Pat Shurmur said. "He can play both outside spots and he's played some snaps in the middle so we feel good about him joining that group.


"We feel like we've addressed some needs. We've picked players that we like and we feel like we've gotten better."

NOTES:

Offense focus for Browns' early choices

--The Browns in 2012 used their first three picks on offensive players for the first time since 2009 when they took center Alex Mack in the first round and wide receivers Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi in the second round.

Prior to 2009, the last time they went back-to-back-to-back on offense was 1985 when all seven draft picks played offense led by running back Greg Allen in the first round. That same year they drafted wide receivers Fred Banks, Reggie Langhorne and Shane Swanson, guards Greg Krerowicz and Larry Williams plus tight end Travis Tucker.

--The Browns were awarded punter Spencer Lanning on waivers from the Jacksonville Jaguars. Lanning became expendable after the Jaguars drafted Bryan Anger from Cal in the third round.

Lanning was an undrafted rookie in the Bears camp last summer. He was waived last Sept. 2 and signed with Jacksonville in January. He provides the Browns insurance in case Reggie Hodges has a setback in his rehab from an Achilles tendon tear that wiped out his 2011 season.

--The future of Colt McCoy with the Browns is uncertain, but for now he is still the starting quarterback.

The Browns denied reports they talked to other teams during the draft about trading McCoy after drafting Brandon Weeden in the first round. They also denied a report they told McCoy they would not take a quarterback in the first round.

"We don't consult our players about who we plan to draft," coach Pat Shurmur said.

--Rookie linebacker Emmanuel Acho and his parents travel to Nigeria every summer on medical missions. His parents were born in Nigeria.

"We travel with about 40 doctors and nurses every summer," Acho said. "We stay in a village for about a week giving people free medical treatment. We see about 7,000 patients in that time."

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Still think the move up for Richardson was by far and long the most necessary move of the draft. Not sure why everyone keeps writing contrary reports. If the Vikings and the Browns both say there was another bidder, who would say otherwise that can be trusted?
 
Still think the move up for Richardson was by far and long the most necessary move of the draft. Not sure why everyone keeps writing contrary reports. If the Vikings and the Browns both say there was another bidder, who would say otherwise that can be trusted?

Seriously....and it's not like they made some dumbass Butch Davis move where they gave up a high second rounder to move up one spot in the draft. They gave up three late round picks in a draft in which the Browns had 13 picks. Generally speaking, most late 4th rounders, 6th rounders, and 7th rounders don't even make the team let alone make a major contribution. Might as well give up a couple picks in that surplus to get the last guy at the top of the draft who can have a major impact on the offense immediately.

I like this draft infinitely less if we wind up with Blackmon, Weeden, and Schwartz. Adding Richardson will help our WR. Adding Blackmon would have done nothing for the running game and would have still left a gigantic void at RB. I still think we need to add a number one WR next year (the 2013 draft looks loaded with stud WR) but Richardson and Weeden will make our current group of WR look so much better.

Also, I don't think Little will ever become a true #1 WR (more likely a top #2) but he had a pretty good rookie year considering he hadn't played football in over a year, had only played WR for one season, had noodle arm McCoy throwing him the ball, and had no threat of a running game. If Weeden and Richardson perform as expected, each of those issues will have been alleviated.
 
Still think the move up for Richardson was by far and long the most necessary move of the draft. Not sure why everyone keeps writing contrary reports. If the Vikings and the Browns both say there was another bidder, who would say otherwise that can be trusted?

It's just another day in Cleveland, no way we could have made a good move according to the media, we are just too terrible of a city -_-
 
Still think the move up for Richardson was by far and long the most necessary move of the draft. Not sure why everyone keeps writing contrary reports. If the Vikings and the Browns both say there was another bidder, who would say otherwise that can be trusted?

Honestly Tampa Bay traded back up into the 1st to get a RB and people want to say they weren't interested in trading up to get the best running back prospect to come out since Adrian Peterson? Riiiiiiiight.
 
AAll the talk down here was hoping for Richardson to fall to Tampa. Every radio station/caller/source wanted that.

I can def. see TB wanting to trade up over the Browns.
 
Blount sucked 1000 dicks last season. Pretty clear they wanted a new running back. Totally fine with the trade.
 
Anyone who complains about the Browns giving up too much to move up is misinformed. We had 13 picks this year, and for every pick we sent to Minnesota, we had another pick in that round (except the fifth, I believe).

If anyone criticizes us giving up three picks to move up one spot, they probably thought we only had seven picks in the draft, If that were the case, then yes, it may have been too much. But we had 10 other picks.

If anyone does care about us giving up those picks, then please tell me what we would have done with those picks that was more important than getting Richardson.
 
The difference between the 3rd and 4th picks on the trade value chart is 400. (2200 vs 1800) that is the equivilent to either next years first (rated at 1 round lower in the next draft) or pick number 50 in the current draft.

So if the Vikings wanted complete compensation that the value chart suggests it should have been the 3rd overall and a 6th for 4th overall and number 37.
 
Anyone who complains about the Browns giving up too much to move up is misinformed. We had 13 picks this year, and for every pick we sent to Minnesota, we had another pick in that round (except the fifth, I believe).

If anyone criticizes us giving up three picks to move up one spot, they probably thought we only had seven picks in the draft, If that were the case, then yes, it may have been too much. But we had 10 other picks.

If anyone does care about us giving up those picks, then please tell me what we would have done with those picks that was more important than getting Richardson.

I honestly expected us to trade up more. Not carry the 10 rookies, or however many, we drafted.
 
Fell in love with him even more...just wow.

"The NFL doesn't need you, I'm not a holdout, make noise kind of guy. We need the NFL, the NFL don't need us."

"My first paycheck is going in the bank, nothing for me aside from ipods for my little girls, and more Justin Bieber stuff, they're real into some Justin Bieber."

Said he wanted to live off of endorsements and bank his NFL checks. That he will earn everything in the NFL and prove what kind of player he is. He's blue collar and Cleveland fits what kind of person he is.
 
If the guy shows up and smashes out 100 yards on the reg, I can deal with the Bieber shit.
 
Said he feels he has to earn everything. Hasn't played a down in the NFL yet and will have to make his own legacy. When asked about the Jim Brown comment, he said, "there is motivation everywhere" and that there have been a lot of great running backs for the Browns since Jim Brown, but everyone still talks about Jim Brown when they think of Browns' running backs. Said he wants to be the guy that everyone talks about once he finishes his career.
 
Said he feels he has to earn everything. Hasn't played a down in the NFL yet and will have to make his own legacy. When asked about the Jim Brown comment, he said, "there is motivation everywhere" and that there have been a lot of great running backs for the Browns since Jim Brown, but everyone still talks about Jim Brown when they think of Browns' running backs. Said he wants to be the guy that everyone talks about once he finishes his career.

Would of been great if he said, "I want to be the guy the Cleveland fans talk about once I finish my career."

Still pumped for him.
 
Would of been great if he said, "I want to be the guy the Cleveland fans talk about once I finish my career."

Still pumped for him.

Trust me if you heard the interview there was nothing to critique. After dealing with Braylon, K2 and other assclowns this guy was a massive breath of fresh air. The guy is awesome in every sense of the word.
 

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