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Tristan Thompson: Initial Thoughts

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Damn, what the hell is wrong with you guys? You're acting like this is the worst pick anyone could make, but given the circumstances (getting Irving at #1)... I don't mind this pick.

Apparently, he's a J.J. clone. That could be good or bad, but at least he can catch the ball. Good feet is good too. And he's athletic and got reach. But what if he has a bigger brain? What if he learns the discipline that J.J. did not? He can come off the bench and be productive or start and do the same thing. He may understand his value better too. He might be the real missing piece at power forward we need and not some big-headed fool.

Wait until everything plays out before making your final bets, folks. It's going to be a long off-season.
 
Only morons are this who did same for Tragic & Lasagnia.

This is Y the Cavs= worst non moved franchise EVER.

Fire Phil Dunphy
 
I think we need to wait and see what happens with JJ before we make any real judgement on the Thompson pick. If JJ nets us two picks or a good young wing and Tristan turns out to be a good player, it was worth it in the long run.
 
I like him. Big question now is what does this mean for JJ...
 
If JJ is traded for 2012 picks, then this is a great pick. Otherwise I'm bumfuckled by this.
 
It's a wait and see pick. Thompson isn't a stiff and deserves to be a high lottery pick. Wouldn't have made the pick myself though.

A lot depends on what else happens down the line. Will it lead to a Hickson trade and what will the Cavs get in that possible trade?

Don't like that Thompson was only a 48% FT shooter last season. That's a major problem that needs to be corrected.

I would have gone for the C for the future but I have to trust the Cavs organization. Cavs and many others do like Thompson a lot.
 
Tristan Thompson is a TERRIBLE pick at #4!!! Cavs blew it!!! It shows they have a weak front office! We are doomed since this is how the team is going to be run! Here we go down the toilet!

We sink as much into talent evaluation as any team in the NBA. If the Cavs people think Thompson's the guy, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's a weak draft, but people are pulling their hair out like we passed over Jordan for Sam Bowie.
 
This biggest bust tonight was RCF. It was useless tonight.
 
Can someone give me an honest, logical breakdown as to the reasons Tristan is a superior pick to Jonas? I mean, to me, it seemed after everything I've read and absorbed over these past few weeks than Jonas or Kanter were the best big men in the draft, and both can play center. We end up drafting a smaller (than Williams or Hickson) PF, to ultimately play behind J.J. Hickson, with the 4th pick, in the 1st round.. Hmm..

I mean, it just doesn't make sense to me. I'd have rather traded AV+4th just to move up to snag Derrick Williams than to have potentially used the 4th (and thereby wasted the opportunity) by drafting what looks to be a role player... And to clarify my point, I'm saying Irving, Williams, Kanter, and even Jonas, look as though they could all have All-Star potential. I just don't where Tristan Thompson fits into that picture.

So an explanation, from anyone who knows more about this than I (and I don't watch the NCAA), would be appreciated.

p.s.
I understand trading AV now is trading at a low-point; but to be honest, while we may have a very small shot at a title in 3 years, but we won't be legitimate title contenders again for quite awhile; especially with the emergence of these super-teams in the NBA (Heat, Knicks+Paul). So, I don't see AV being a big part of that picture, considering his age as well as other factors.
 
I can't get this video to imbed for some reason, but here is a Sport Science segment on him:

http://youtu.be/43SrYmqE9K8

Check it out to see how athletic he is.

Also, Pluto's thoughts on Thompson:

INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- Scribbles as the first round continues Tuesday night.

1. I've been told by an NBA source that the Cavs are expected to keep Tristan Thompson, the No. 4 pick. There had been some speculation that the Cavs would be trading the power forward from Texas at some point. After all, they already have J.J. Hickson and Samardo Samuels at power forward. Starting center Anderson Varejao also can play that position.

2. The Cavs didn't want to wait as long as two years for Jonas Valanciunas to get free of his European contract. These situations can be very messy. That must have been the case here, because the Cavs really like the 7-foot Valanciunas.

3. My thought is the Cavs have their own Valanciunas. He's 7-foot Semih Erden, acquired from Boston. And yes, they are both projects.

4. Yes, they are expected to keep Thompson, but they could trade Hickson, who will be a free agent in the summer of 2012. Thompson is much like Hickson when he came out of N.C. State after one year. He's a power forward whose assets are lively legs, long arms and rebounding. Hickson led the ACC in rebounding in his only season. Thompson averaged 7.8 rebounds, 4.2 on the offensive boards. He's 6-8 3/4, 230 pounds.

5. Here's a Thompson scouting report that Sports Illustrated's Seth Davis received from an NBA executive: "He's a good kid, No. 1. That can't be valued enough in this league. He's a guy I'd love to work with every day for a year just to see how much better he gets. Woo, you talk about a motor! This kid goes after it. He rebounds the ball, has super long arms, blocks shots, a good defender. He's a terrible free-throw shooter and offensively, if he's not dunking it, he's in trouble. But you're not drafting him for his offense."

6. The good news is Thompson draws a lot of fouls, going to the line 7.2 times. The bad news is he shot 49 percent. He did shoot 55 percent from the field, mostly near the basket. He has a 7-2 wingspan and the potential to be a good defensive player.

7. The Cavs compile a lot of complicated internal stats for rating prospects, much like what ESPN's John Hollinger uses. Hollinger rated Derrick Williams and Thompson as the two best big men in the draft: "Thompson and Williams had the highest ratings of any player in the Draft Rater this year, and while that doesn't come with the same assurances it does for Kyrie Irving, they both appear to be very solid prospects. Of the 13 players who rated at 15.5 or above in previous iterations, most were very successful as pros. The ones that weren't tended to fail due to injuries and lack of professionalism -- issues that shouldn't be factors for Thompson and Williams."

8. Hollinger rated Thompson the No. 3 player in the draft.

9. For weeks, people have been saying Byron Scott will be a good coach for Irving, the No. 1 pick out of Duke. He had major success coaching point guards Chris Paul and Jason Kidd. But another factor is that Scott's motion offense will help Irving. It creates a lot of medium range jump shots. Irving shot 53 percent from the field, 46 percent on 3-pointers. It also features a lot of high pick-and-roll sets, an area where Irving excelled at Duke.

10. One of the real strengths of Irving is that he draws fouls -- he went to the line 6.5 times per game, and made 90 percent. That also means he's a guy who can handle the ball at the end of games because he can get fouled and make the shots, protecting leads.

11. Irving also scores more on drives to his left -- more than his right. That's a major asset because Irving is right handed. Most defenders automatically favor the right hand -- making it easier to go left. At a legitimate 6-3, he can play in the same backcourt with Baron Davis.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2011/06/nba_draft_2011_enes_kanter_the.html
 
There better be a Part B to this...

I didn't get the sense we were making a pick for another team, based on who other teams were taking. God in heaven, I hope this is about moving JJ for 2012 picks...

The silver lining is we still have a giant hole at SF...though if our strategy is to tank next year, I don't know why we didn't just pick the high upside V to camp out overseas....Actually, fuck this, it makes no sense...TT didn't seem like a super IQ upgrade over JJ in the quick interview. WTF. That better be one hell of a 5-foot jumper.
 
I don't even understand the supposed upside here. It helps us move Hickson?

Um..why? We could have drafted my mother at number 4 and still moved Hickson. We have years before we contend, it's about the best available player right now..who cares if we have a hole at the 4 spot next year? So we draft Jonas and trade Hickson and are left with Saramdo to play the 4? So? Were we making the playoffs anyway? Were we making the playoffs the following year? No.
 
Don't understand this pick. If we wanted a PF why not take Williams at #1 then Knight at #4? Makes much more sense to me.
 
Side note: I bet Samardo made this pick they played together in High School.
 

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