Tristan Thompson

[Tornicade]

Cavs are 6th in opponent FGA per game in the restricted area.
Cavs are 11th in Opponent FGA per game in the paint.
Cavs are 12 in Opponent FGA from mid range.
21st in opp corner 3's
27th in abov the break opponent 3's

Cavs opponent EFG from 3 is around 50%.

so why arent teams attacking the rim ?

maybe they cant. perhaps Tristan is a part of that.

 

[Derek]

Andy in his first few years was far uglier of a player than TT. He could barely make a layup and any form of a jumper. Now look at him. He's virtually automatic at 18 feet. And he basically added that shot within the past year.

I disagree with your assessment of Andy early in his career. Regardless though, Andy's development has nothing to do with Tristan's.

 

[STAT]

Cavs are 6th in opponent FGA per game in the restricted area.
Cavs are 11th in Opponent FGA per game in the paint.
Cavs are 12 in Opponent FGA from mid range.
21st in opp corner 3's
27th in abov the break opponent 3's

Cavs opponent EFG from 3 is around 50%.

so why arent teams attacking the rim ?

maybe they cant. perhaps Tristan is a part of that.

Because they get great looks from the rest of the floor with little effort...

 

[Tornicade]

Because they get great looks from the rest of the floor with little effort...

or Thompson is fundamentally sound spacing wise and they have a hard time getting the open shots.

but yeah lets take 40% shots and 50% efg and forget about the 63% shot. newsflash you want your opponent taking shots further away from the basket.

 

[Zen]

Andy always had a natural feel for the game, it's not fair to compare Tristan to him.

A player's growth is not limitless. Tristan has a ceiling, and in my opinion he is close to reaching it offensively. He just lacks fluidity on that end. I am much more interested in watching how he grows as a defender.

A man that literally just changed his entire game (shooting hands) and is producing already at a higher clip than he was previously is no where near "reaching his ceiling offensively" He should show steady improvement for the next 3 years.

I think people underestimate how big of a change this is, and it is yielding results already. Imagine after another off season. For people forgetting just how bad it was, please watch the link below. This man had one of the ugliest ft releases I have ever seen, and it is night and day now. (this is one of his few makes)

Video around 1:08

[video=youtube;8XPyB2rCuAI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8XPyB2rCuAI#t=68[/video]

 

[shoes22]

It is extremely short-sighted to think that someone who changed shooting hands as recently as six months ago, is "close to his ceiling offensively". He can do much, much more on offense than he currently does.

 

[Derek]

It is extremely short-sighted to think that someone who changed shooting hands as recently as six months ago, is "close to his ceiling offensively". He can do much, much more on offense than he currently does.

It's not short-sighted. It's a difference of opinion. I just don't see Tristan becoming much more on offense than he is right now.

In my ideal projection, as our depth and talent pool grows, Tristan settles in as a 10-10 guy in about 28 mpg with excellent efficiency and great defense.

 

[CosmoKramer]

Andy always had a natural feel for the game, it's not fair to compare Tristan to him.

A player's growth is not limitless. Tristan has a ceiling, and in my opinion he is close to reaching it offensively. He just lacks fluidity on that end. I am much more interested in watching how he grows as a defender.

Your memory is failing you here, Andy was an extremely raw player when he first got here. He always had that relentless motor but he also picked up fouls at an alarming rate, which is common for young, overwhelmed bigs. It took him until his 4th year for his foul rate to drop below 5 per 36. Where did you think he got Wild Thing?

 

[Derek]

Your memory is failing you here, Andy was an extremely raw player when he first got here. He always had that relentless motor but he also picked up fouls at an alarming rate, which is common for young, overwhelmed bigs. It took him until his 4th year for his foul rate to drop below 5 per 36. Where did you think he got Wild Thing?

My memory is not failing me at all. Andy has always had a good feel for the game even if it didn't always translate in a super productive way.

 

[demonmt]

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[demonmt]

A man that literally just changed his entire game (shooting hands) and is producing already at a higher clip than he was previously is no where near "reaching his ceiling offensively" He should show steady improvement for the next 3 years.

I think people underestimate how big of a change this is, and it is yielding results already. Imagine after another off season. For people forgetting just how bad it was, please watch the link below. This man had one of the ugliest ft releases I have ever seen, and it is night and day now. (this is one of his few makes)

Video around 1:08

[video=youtube;8XPyB2rCuAI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8XPyB2rCuAI#t=68[/video]

Remember how hard it used to be for Tristan to get a dunk?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Your memory is failing you here, Andy was an extremely raw player when he first got here. He always had that relentless motor but he also picked up fouls at an alarming rate, which is common for young, overwhelmed bigs. It took him until his 4th year for his foul rate to drop below 5 per 36. Where did you think he got Wild Thing?

In the 2007 Finals, it was almost universally recognized that Andy was the wrong guy to have the ball in his hands at the end of that game, because he wasn't considered clutch or capable of making the smart play. AV's court vision/awareness, as well as his skill set, have been on an upward trajectory for years. He was completely incapable of making the kind of passes he makes almost routinely now. His improvement in that regard is really quite remarkable.

 

[shoes22]

My memory is not failing me at all. Andy has always had a good feel for the game even if it didn't always translate in a super productive way.

The point is, Andy's IQ and production is magnitudes better now than it was his 3rd year. The only thing that has remained consistent in his career is his motor. Everything else about his game has improved substantially.

 

[Derek]

The point is, Andy's IQ and production is magnitudes better now than it was his 3rd year. The only thing that has remained consistent in his career is his motor. Everything else about his game has improved substantially.

His skills have improved, but his IQ and feel have always been there. Like I said earlier though, Andy's development has nothing to do with Tristan's.

 

[DatDudeZ3]

It is extremely short-sighted to think that someone who changed shooting hands as recently as six months ago, is "close to his ceiling offensively". He can do much, much more on offense than he currently does.

That was the point I was trying to make, if he adds a consistent 15 foot jumper this off season, it will take his game to another level and open up his offensive game more. Would be a game changer for TT