Tristan Thompson

[Huber.]

Raw stats don't tell the whole story.

Says the guy that told me to go find a players statline

 

[Derek]

Monroe, 15.9 ppg, 10.2 rpg. 2.1 apg. and you don't like him?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4722/

Not really. He's a very "meh" player IMO. Can't shoot, and isn't a good defender. I think it'll be tough to have much success with him in your front court.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Says the guy that told me to go find a players statline

Including all of his advanced stats, which apparently you didn't notice...

Difference between raw stats and advanced stats, Saget.

 

[Kevin Ollie]

If he's making near max demands, the only stipulation I'd make is that at no point can any announcer describe him as "blue-collar", or refer to him "bringing his lunch pail to work."

 

[Jordan]

I'll certainly never forget how Curry made every single 3 he took with Thompson guarding him, or how Rose's buzzer beater was over him.

That isn't what happened but I appreciate your conjecture. More holistically -
"Among the 74 players who defended at least 50 possessions ending with a shot, foul drawn or turnover by a roll man, Thompson tied for eighth (with Marc Gasol) in points per play allowed, per Synergy Sports. He also checked in tied at 18th out of 77 players who defended at least 75 isolation possessions. When defending in open space, he is among the best bigs in the game." --> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tan-thompson-really-a-maximum-contract-player

 

[Huber.]

Not really. He's a very "meh" player IMO. Can't shoot, and isn't a good defender.

The irony

 

[gourimoko]

What was his RPM overall? Can you rank that for 1) overall players and then 2) PF and C positions? I'm trying to figure out what plus player means, and how many plus players there are overall. Thank you very much in advance.

Tristan Thompson:

ORPM: 1.85 / DRPM: -0.42 | RPM = 1.43

Compare to Tiago Splitter

Tiago Splitter:

ORPM: 0.58 / DPRM: 2.70 | RPM = 3.28

And for reference, Chris Bosh:

Chris Bosh:

ORPM: 0.72 / DRPM: -0.04 | RPM: 0.68
(That's on 21.1ppg / 7rbs w/PER of 19.8)

Point being: it's not useful to just look at one metric outside of proper context.

 

[Derek]

The irony

Only if you can find a post of mine saying that Tristan is more than a role player.

 

[Ricky1319]

The bickering in here reminds me of a bunch of old ladies.

 

[gourimoko]

The bickering in here reminds me of a bunch of old ladies.

I actually think it's an interesting debate..

I mean, I think the question of what Tristan is really worth is an important one, and distinct and separate from just what the market will pay at the given moment.

It's a worthwhile conversation, regardless of what the Cavaliers sign him for (under duress).

 

[BimboColesHair]

I actually think it's an interesting debate..

I mean, I think the question of what Tristan is really worth is an important one, and distinct and separate from just what the market will pay at the given moment.

It's a worthwhile conversation, regardless of what the Cavaliers sign him for (under duress).

Which in itself is hard to do because the changing of the cap is going to change the actual effect of Tristan's contract on the Cavs cap. Just a weird off season with what is looming the next few years.

 

[borgon]

The bickering in here reminds me of a bunch of old ladies.

Hot old ladies

 

[NasstyNate]

Tristan Thompson:

ORPM: 1.85 / DRPM: -0.42 | RPM = 1.43

Compare to Tiago Splitter

Tiago Splitter:

ORPM: 0.58 / DPRM: 2.70 | RPM = 3.28

And for reference, Chris Bosh:

Chris Bosh:

ORPM: 0.72 / DRPM: -0.04 | RPM: 0.68
(That's on 21.1ppg / 7rbs w/PER of 19.8)

Point being: it's not useful to just look at one metric outside of proper context.

Where are you getting these numbers? BBREF has him at a -0.6.

 

[gourimoko]

Where are you getting these numbers? BBREF has him at a -0.6.

There is only one source for RPM, and that's ESPN.

RPM is a proprietary RAPM variant owned by ESPN, and the method of calculation is not publicly known. This is why I prefer RAPM; but RPM is updated more often (as @priceFTW has mentioned previously), and is also from a more authoritative and central source with a single method of calculation, so it's often used during the season.

Also, it's important to note that these are predictive stats; meaning, RPM/RAPM is designed to tell you what a player is likely to do in the future, not necessarily what they've done in the past.

 

[NasstyNate]

There is only one source for RPM, and that's ESPN.

RPM is a proprietary RAPM variant owned by ESPN, and the method of calculation is not publicly known. This is why I prefer RAPM; but RPM is updated more often (as @priceFTW has mentioned previously), and is also from a more authoritative and central source with a single method of calculation, so it's often used during the season.

Also, it's important to note that these are predictive stats; meaning, RPM/RAPM is designed to tell you what a player is likely to do in the future, not necessarily what they've done in the past.

Thanks, man.

How do you feel about BBREF's version of BPM?