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I'm pretty sure that in a team first organization like SAS we wouldn't see players demanding such pay. If they did, I think they would be released because the organization doesn't care for selfish players.

TT needs to think about winning a championship with his teammates rather their maximizing his payroll to the maximum. His focus seems to be in the wrong place.
 
I'm pretty sure that in a team first organization like SAS we wouldn't see players demanding such pay. If they did, I think they would be released because the organization doesn't care for selfish players.

TT needs to think about winning a championship with his teammates rather their maximizing his payroll to the maximum. His focus seems to be in the wrong place.

It's still an assumption at this point. We are not in the room with these people.

What we do know is that the divide is between incentives and what's guaranteed.
 
I dont think the money is a big factor in the contract hold up, Gilbert and griffin seem more than willing to give him the money. I think the delay is over options and trade kickers.
just my opinion.

As far as the Mozgov VS Thompson thing .. in terms of Value Thompson is more valuable.

Mozgov is not gonna give you more than 30 minutes a game and he is not able to guard multiple positions.

Tristan has to be accounted for every play on the offensive end. The Bulls, Hawks and Golden state basically tired to chain him down on both ends of the court.

Tristan wasnt just doing this once Love went down. It was just blatantly more obvious.

Thompson has nowhere near peaked. He is learning and recognizing the tricks of the trade that veterans like Paul Milsop employed regularly to limit Thompsons Athleticism.

Those tricks didnt work in the playoffs against Atlanta because Thompson has taken the next step in his development.

Mozgov is also gonna be 29 next year and has peaked athletically. Thompson is 24 and hasnt entered his prime at all.

Value wise you get that 5 year contract from Thompson and benefit as his all around game continues to Grow.

Contact stuff Aside. What I would like to see is Thompson work on his passing in the paint and continue his strides with his dribbling and I hope someone is working some three man drills with him every day on finishing tip ins and more above the rim work.
Exactly this. 100%. I want to add that I think the Tristan/Mozgov dichotomy is a false one. We don't know what the cap will look like and we don't know what is going to happen to Andy's career after this season.
 
So much shit being flung against the wall in here...all based on vague tweets that don't even explain what the impasse is even about.

Those vague tweets have caused: Rich Paul, probably the most influential guy in getting LeBron back, to become vilified for doing his job, LeBron becoming a selfish punk, Tristan becoming a prima donna and requesting all of our 1st born children.
 
I'm pretty sure that in a team first organization like SAS we wouldn't see players demanding such pay. If they did, I think they would be released because the organization doesn't care for selfish players.

TT needs to think about winning a championship with his teammates rather their maximizing his payroll to the maximum. His focus seems to be in the wrong place.
None of the media reporters to my knowledge has stated that contract talks have stalled over money.

usually they press will say things like oh the player and teams are a few million apart. no explanation given here.

Tristan isnt being selfish he is doing the same thing that AV did and protecting his own interest.
 
Would you be willing to call LeBron on is bluff and risk him walking over a measly $5-$10 million over 5 years for Tristan? LeBron left Miami because Arison got greedy.

Yes.

We don't know the numbers, but we can still discuss parameters/principles.

TT has one value on the open market among teams with cap space who can go after alternatives. The Cavs would gladly pay that.

He has a higher value to us because we can't just go out and sign someone else. If I'm Dan, I'd still be willing to pay whatever value that has, even if that is more than he would get offered on the open market by other teams.

But then there is the additional possibilty some have raised that LBJ is helping leverage TT's value even higher to help out his friend, or simply to flex his muscles and demonstrate how much power he has. I wouldn't "blame" them if that is what is going on.

But if that is part of the equation, I ignore that if I'm Gilbert/Griffin , and base.my offer on TT's value to the franchise without considering LBJ.

The Cavs just signed Love and Shump to long-term deals, and signed Kyrie to the max as well. Gilbert is not Arison. LBJ and his family are fully integrated into the local community again, and as long as the team is willing to pay him the max, spend shitloads of money to surround him with two other superstars, and go deep into the tax to pay other players more than they can make elsewhere, the chances of him leaving are negligible.

He's certainly got power, but it is not absolute. And I think the Cavs know that.

ETA: it should be remembered that even if the parties are "only' $2m/year apart, that's actually $10m over the life of the deal. And when you add in the luxury tax complication, that measly little $2m looks more like $50m.

So yeah, if I'm DG, I'm only bending over as far as absolutely necessary.
 
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So much shit being flung against the wall in here...all based on vague tweets that don't even explain what the impasse is even about.

Those vague tweets have caused: Rich Paul, probably the most influential guy in getting LeBron back, to become vilified for doing his job, LeBron becoming a selfish punk, Tristan becoming a prima donna and requesting all of our 1st born children.

And let's no forget that when "reports" and "people close to" Kyrie were saying he has not going to stay, there were people upset and wanting to trade him because Dion could fill his spot. On top of that, many never wanted LeBron back because he left us in misery.

TT is doing what is best for him and both sides are negotiating. We have not heard any details of the holdup. It could be something other than money. We don't know.

In the end, they will all sign and we will all be happy. Great post BimboColeHair.
 
Some poster told me this deal had already been finalized

bad sources on here
The contract was agreed into in principles . it was during the hasing out of the actual contract that things got stalled. I really wouldnt be concerned about it until July 9th. When contacts are actually signed.
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ESPN sources tell @WindhorstESPN & I that Cavs and Tristan Thompson are nearing agreement on deal that will pay the RFA in excess of $80 milion

Not sure what your beef is with anonymous poster

The offer does indicate that in the worst case scenario the Cavs are gonna match any offer made on Thompson.
 
Even in a worst case scenario, Tristan isn’t going to sign any offer sheets with other teams...primarily because he’s looking for a five year deal, and the most other teams can sign him to is a four year deal for less money.
So in the unlikely scenario that the Cavs and Tristan can’t come to an agreement, he’ll just sign for the qualifying offer and become an unrestricted free agent next year.
 
I'm pretty sure that in a team first organization like SAS we wouldn't see players demanding such pay. If they did, I think they would be released because the organization doesn't care for selfish players.

TT needs to think about winning a championship with his teammates rather their maximizing his payroll to the maximum. His focus seems to be in the wrong place.

Well, we'd obviously all prefer a Spurs model, but I can't blame the guy for trying to maximize his value.

But that actually works in our favor. Because neither he nor LBJ would be maximizing their value by sitting out this year, or by leaving the best offer on the table next offseason just because they were pissed the Cavs didn't overpay this off season.

"Greed" is actually the Cavs' best ally at this point.
 
If Rich Paul is such a crack agent, how come he can't get his RFA client any kind of decent offer sheet?
 
If Rich Paul is such a crack agent, how come he can't get his RFA client any kind of decent offer sheet?

Curious...do you know how the offer sheet process works and the cap holds and requirements that come with signing someone to one?
 
Curious...do you know how the offer sheet process works and the cap holds and requirements that come with signing someone to one?

I'm a 45 year Cavs/NBA fan. I was watching pro B-Ball in Baghdad when you were in your Dad's bag. So in answer to your query.....yes, yes I do. Also, you should never answer a question with another question. It makes you look stupid.
 
I'm a 45 year Cavs/NBA fan. I was watching pro B-Ball in Baghdad when you were in your Dad's bag. So in answer to your query.....yes, yes I do. Also, you should never answer a question with another question. It makes you look stupid.

LMAO. Right...Yeah...then I shouldn't have to explain how retarded your initial question was if you know.

Here's another question for you, ass...have you noticed not a single RFA has received an offer or been signed to an offer sheet? Maybe your "45 years of being a Cavs fan" can explain that one to us simpletons who know jackshit about basketball.
 
LMAO. Right...Yeah...then I shouldn't have to explain how retarded your initial question was if you know.

Here's another question for you, ass...have you noticed not a single RFA has received an offer or been signed to an offer sheet? Maybe your "45 years of being a Cavs fan" can explain that one to us simpletons who know jackshit about basketball.

Bimbo, I think you're missing the point.

Who are the Cavs bidding against?
 

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