Week 1 -|- Philadelphia Eagles @ Cleveland Browns -|- 1PM on FOX

[Shakalu M.D.]

It's discouraging when all we here all off season is "This guys ready, he's older, he's mature because he was a gas can in minor league baseball."

Yet the 22 year olds looked comfortable and Weeden looked the worst.

This shouldn't be surprising, Colt has started several NFL games. Unfortunately being comfortable and having experience won't magically increase his ability to throw the ball.

Weeden is more mature, that just comes with age and life experience. However maturity doesn't necessarily translate into being comfortable on the field. The main reason I liked Weeden was his talent. There's no question there were flaws to his game, but he's a guy who was pretty accurate in college and has the ability to make all the throws. I didn't mind his age too much because, even if he takes 2 years to develop, then he could still likely play at a high level for another 5 or so years. Heck he could play longer in theory, he hasn't been getting hit as long as most NFL QBs and he doesn't really need to worry about a decline in athleticism, it's not like he runs. When's the last time we had a QB here for 5 years?

Did I think Weeden would step on the field and be good from day 1? No, clearly he had kinks in his game that he needed to work out. I just wasn't freaking out because we might only get 5 years from a QB instead of 12.

 

[JSS2306]

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[JSS2306]

This shouldn't be surprising, Colt has started several NFL games. Unfortunately being comfortable and having experience won't magically increase his ability to throw the ball.

Weeden is more mature, that just comes with age and life experience. However maturity doesn't necessarily translate into being comfortable on the field. The main reason I liked Weeden was his talent. There's no question there were flaws to his game, but he's a guy who was pretty accurate in college and has the ability to make all the throws. I didn't mind his age too much because, even if he takes 2 years to develop, then he could still likely play at a high level for another 5 or so years. Heck he could play longer in theory, he hasn't been getting hit as long as most NFL QBs and he doesn't really need to worry about a decline in athleticism, it's not like he runs. When's the last time we had a QB here for 5 years?

Did I think Weeden would step on the field and be good from day 1? No, clearly he had kinks in his game that he needed to work out. I just wasn't freaking out because we might only get 5 years from a QB instead of 12.

Hey, Colt is better than Weeden on his BEST day. It's already been proven in Weedens only starting game...

How does that happen? How does a 29 year old man prove that he is complete and utter shit compared to a 25 year old "veteran"? The only way this happens is if Weeden is complete shit and Colt is complete effort which just so happens to be the case and the case I stick by. We would have won had Colt been starting last game.

Are we playing for picks or playing to win? I don't play for picks and neither does anybody else but apparently thats the plan.

 

[AZ_]

Hey, Colt is better than Weeden on his BEST day. It's already been proven in Weedens only starting game...

Shhhh.....

That'll do pig...that'll do.

 

[JSS2306]

Shhhh.....

That'll do pig...that'll do.

If only it weren't so goddamn true...

 

[AZ_]

No seriously though...that was about as retarded a statement that anyone has made since Doug left the board.

It obviously wasn't Weeden's best day, thus, your statement is not proven.


Stop yelling at kids to get off your lawn, and while I don't think Weeden is going to be anything more than marginal....You're argument is certainly not helping the cause.

In fact anyone who reads this is probably more likely to disagree with you're argument....it's really been that poorly constructed.

 

[MDLT]

It's discouraging when all we here all off season is "This guys ready, he's older, he's mature because he was a gas can in minor league baseball."

Yet the 22 year olds looked comfortable and Weeden looked the worst.

I'm not going to go back through all these threads, but I honestly don't remember a great deal of posts stating that Weeden will be ready off the bat b/c he's older -- it seemed more excitement about him b/c he's got a strong arm and can throw downfield.

And really, I don't think that's changed. It seems generally fans are disappointed in Weeden's start, as they should be, but aren't ready to bail on the guy -- which is/would be completely ridiculous btw. It's just that we have a few posters who are hijacking threads by saying the guy is already a bust and clamor for Colt McCoy, a certified backup in this league.

I understand it's the internet and all, and those who shout the loudest get the most attention, but this getting a little ridiculous - even for Browns fans.

 

[JSS2306]

No seriously though...that was about as retarded a statement that anyone has made since Doug left the board.

It obviously wasn't Weeden's best day, thus, your statement is not proven.


Stop yelling at kids to get off your lawn, and while I don't think Weeden is going to be anything more than marginal....You're argument is certainly not helping the cause.

In fact anyone who reads this is probably more likely to disagree with you're argument....it's really been that poorly constructed.

I love it. My only argument has been that Colt is better than Weeden. Period.
I know Colt is better than Weeden. It's already proven. I have never, will never, care what anybody else thinks. It's a done deal, Weeden has had the most disappointing start of any quarterback in the modern era EVER... and here I thought I would have to defend myself. I don't.

Game over.

 

[MDLT]

I love it. My only argument has been that Colt is better than Weeden. Period.
I know Colt is better than Weeden. It's already proven. I have never, will never, care what anybody else thinks. It's a done deal, Weeden has had the most disappointing start of any quarterback in the modern era EVER... and here I thought I would have to defend myself. I don't.

Game over.

Absurd.

 

[AZ_]

I love it. My only argument has been that Colt is better than Weeden. Period.
I know Colt is better than Weeden. It's already proven. I have never, will never, care what anybody else thinks. It's a done deal, Weeden has had the most disappointing start of any quarterback in the modern era EVER... and here I thought I would have to defend myself. I don't.

Game over.

Continuing to exaggerate makes your argument so much more thought provoking and intelligent.

Please continue....

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

I love it. My only argument has been that Colt is better than Weeden. Period.
I know Colt is better than Weeden. It's already proven. I have never, will never, care what anybody else thinks. It's a done deal, Weeden has had the most disappointing start of any quarterback in the modern era EVER... and here I thought I would have to defend myself. I don't.

Game over.

How has it been proven? That's the whole point to playing Weeden, we really don't know what we have in him. You can't judge a guy based on 1 game. With Colt we've already had a chance to watch him play. I don't care about the age difference, compared to Weeden Colt IS a veteran. The major difference between the two of them is that Weeden actually has an NFL arm.

You know who else had a bad rookie year? Brett Favre. He only threw 4 passes, completed none of them, and had 2 of them picked off. Atlanta clearly made the right choice in trading him.

 

[AZ_]

His argument is so bad he's got me defending Brandon Weeden.

Thought you be more likely to see Hitler lighting the menorah...but here we are.

 

[JSS2306]

His argument is so bad he's got me defending Brandon Weeden.

Thought you be more likely to see Hitler lighting the menorah...but here we are.

Well if you're defending Weeden then you're defending horrible. I'm glad you can finally socialize with these Clevelanders.

Good for you homie. Hope it all works out for ya.

Weeden is still HORRIBLE.

 

[AZ_]

Well if you're defending Weeden then you're defending horrible. I'm glad you can finally socialize with these Clevelanders.

Good for you homie. Hope it all works out for ya.

Weeden is still HORRIBLE.

But you're shilling for McCoy....who is basically a different shade of horrible.

Your reacharounds administered to Jordan Shipley not withstanding...you're basically comparing shit to poop and trying to tell everyone that one is better.

 

[Pyro]

Well if you're defending Weeden then you're defending horrible. I'm glad you can finally socialize with these Clevelanders.

Good for you homie. Hope it all works out for ya.

Weeden is still HORRIBLE.

I have no words, so I will allow Gunnery Sergeant Hartman do it for me...

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