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Optomist, I'm more referring to game 5. The supporting cast contributed a lot more offensively in game 6. No one but Lebron was shooting those overtimes. His teammates were passing the ball like it was a hot potato when they did get it. You got to make them beat you at that point. But yea, Boobie burned them every time they threw the double. One of the threes came on a nice Damon Jones pass also.

Yeah, it's the sort of thing that fans will bitch about Mike Brown saying he'd make game to game adjustments, but not in-game adjustments, but hey at least our game strategy against players like Dywane Wade and Kobe Bryant included mixing up the defenses they'd see at the end of games by using different players on them, or forcing them to give up the ball - to at least see whether their teammates could do anything.

But like I said, the Piston's problems were more endemic and had to do with losing their edge on D and replacing their defensive anchor with Chris Webber.
 
Lebron, stop posting in the Cavs forums!

This insult in not warranted. And of course, if I were the he, I would be out living my privileged life and not posting on this forum with you proletariat people!
 
As far as Pittman, who was injured much of last year, we will see, since he is likely to be in the MIA rotation next year. The talent is there, sometimes the light goes on. Although I personally believe that the Cavs can continue with their current center rotation for another year, having watched Pittman some at Texas, I think he definitely has a higher ceiling as a developmental center than any of these players.

Miller is a role of the dice. Again, as an NBA player there really is no comparison between him and Gibson. Its possible that his surgery is career ending; it is possible that he recovers from the surgery and is able to contribute a high level. Miami with a healthy Miller in the lineup against the Butler-less Mavericks are likely the champions. I fear that scenario next year more than a MIA lineup with Gibson.

It is not like Miller is making over $10M like some of the players folks wanted to take on with the TPE. The Cavs can use a transitional player like Miller at their vacant SG spot while they wait for the development of the player they have yet to even draft.

OK, I will stop now.
 
This insult in not warranted. And of course, if I were the he, I would be out living my privileged life and not posting on this forum with you proletariat people!

If LeBron listens to KNR as much as I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised if he came to RCF even if it was only to lurk.

All about how you view the players involved. We will see how each career progresses. Que Sera, Sera.

As far as MIA, I am taking care of them by sending them "the unavailable" Boobie, since I'm predicting next baby and/or hurt toe right around late May, early June 2012. Oh, and I am also taking their best center prospect.

I think this post says it all:

Why the hell would any team take on a bad contract of a guy in his 30s just to get Dexter Pittman? Dexter Pittman!?!? Miami signed Joel Anthony for 5 years, dug up the fresh corpses of Zydrunas Ilguaskas, Erick Dampier and Jamaal Magliore in addition to considering signing Eddy Curry before letting Dexter Pittman sniff the court. Stop it.
 
Yeah, it's the sort of thing that fans will bitch about Mike Brown saying he'd make game to game adjustments, but not in-game adjustments, but hey at least our game strategy against players like Dywane Wade and Kobe Bryant included mixing up the defenses they'd see at the end of games by using different players on them, or forcing them to give up the ball - to at least see whether their teammates could do anything.

But like I said, the Piston's problems were more endemic and had to do with losing their edge on D and replacing their defensive anchor with Chris Webber.

Yea I agree. Not sure we beat them if Ben Wallace is there. And by that time C-Webb was very immobile. He still could score, I remember him coming alive in one of the OTs in game 5. But by that time the microfracture surgery had robbed him of any atheleticism he had left. A shame, he was one of my favorite players. Felt sad to see him walk through that tunnel with his head down after game 6
 
Yes, I said I would stop, but just one more thing: since I was going strictly off my memory of seeing Pittman play in college, its only fair to him to post objective analysis from the experts. Here is the most recent evaluation of Pittman by Draft Express, home of Jonathan "Big V." Givony:


D-League Showcase Profiles: NBA Allocation and Rights-Held Players
January 15, 2011
Joseph Treutlein

Definitely the most dominant physical player we saw at the Showcase, Dexter Pittman is quite clearly in the best shape of his career, now having some noticeable definition to his build. Despite losing an enormous amount of weight over the past few years, Pittman appears to have lost none of his brute strength, he looks excellent moving around the floor, and it appears he still may have another 10-15 pounds to lose or at least convert to more muscle down the road.

On the offensive end, Pittman has a simple but highly effective game, as he establishes dominant post position frequently, showing excellent understanding of leverage and no problem throwing his body around in the lane. He backs his man down consistently and finishes with simple lay-ups and hook shots around the basket, showing good touch and getting more than enough separation to get his shots off cleanly. He'll occasionally mix in some fakes and countermoves but never has to get too creative, though this could change if he starts seeing minutes at the next level.

When catching passes around the rim, Pittman goes up strong and assertively, usually finishing with a quick and powerful dunk, something the Miami Heat scouts in attendance had to love seeing considering the opportunities he'd have to score in a similar fashion with their roster's current makeup. Pittman's incredibly long arms obviously help a great deal, as do his huge and exceptionally soft hands, and he'd be far more effective converting simple catch and finish opportunities for Miami than Joel Anthony would for example.

While Pittman is outstanding operating inside the paint, that really is the extent of his offensive game at this stage, as aside from doing a good job crashing the offensive glass, there's not much else he contributes.

The most pressing thing Pittman could do to improve his game is developing a respectable mid-range jumper. Improving his free-throw shooting would be highly beneficial as well, as he's leaving a ton of points at the line by shooting just 55% despite taking nearly one free throw for every field goal he attempts.

Defensively, Pittman does a solid job in the post where he's physical and has decent fundamentals, but he could do more to help on the weakside with shot blocking, still not fully realizing his potential there. His ability to defend pick-and-rolls and step out on the perimeter is also not a strong point, something he can work on with all the minutes he's seeing here. This might be the part of his game that is holding him back the most currently, as his lack of lateral quickness trying to stay in front of attacking opponents was noticeable even at this level.

Pittman is in a nice situation where he can get a ton of minutes at this level and work on his weak points, hopefully eventually setting himself up to get into the Miami Heat's rotation, which currently employ some questionable bigs in their rotation. While the chances of that happening this season may not be high, he can play himself into a great situation down the road if he keeps developing, and given the outstanding work ethic he's shown in transforming his body over the past few years, it's probably a good bet he'll do everything he can to reach his potential. If Pittman's rights weren't owned by a championship contending team, it's safe to say that he would already be seeing minutes at the NBA level based on what we saw here.
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According to most here, this player cannot be a potentially solid developmental addition to the Cavs center rotation. Yet Boobie, who has obviously peaked at "average", is untouchable. SMH.

Hopefully Grant don't listen to the sentimentalists and the advocates of perpetual losing in search of the perfect draft pick. Go get the players to win, Grant!
 
I don't know if I like that trade but Pittman's definitely got some game. I wouldn't mind getting him if the right opportunity arose. He's got the potential to be a very good starting center in this league, but on the down side he also has the potential to eat his way to being the 12th man.
 
According to most here, this player cannot be a potentially solid developmental addition to the Cavs center rotation. Yet Boobie, who has obviously peaked at "average", is untouchable. SMH.

Hopefully Grant don't listen to the sentimentalists and the advocates of perpetual losing in search of the perfect draft pick. Go get the players to win, Grant!

Do you know how incredibly rude it is for you to continuously try to label us because we disagree with you. That, and your constant spin trying to claim that we've said things that we aren't saying. No one has said Mr Gibson is untouchable. In fact, many of the people who disagree with you in this thread would be happy to see him moved. They can simply see how "pro" Heat this trade proposal is.

And, this blog article about Pittman at a D-League game hardly solidifies him as the next Shaq or something. You do realize that we already have the D-League rookie of the year on the roster. Should we be preparing his HoF ceremony yet?

You said you would stop. How about being a man of your word?
 
If the cavs really wanted Dexter Pittman. Pittman +pick for Sessions and hollins etc. would be about all they would give up for him . they wouldnt need to take on mike millers contract .

nor would they need to give up gibson to get this trade done.
 
Proposed trade is not one sided to Heat; trade favors Cavaliers. Miller's contract is he price of center prospect acquisition (not to mention he IS the better player). However, Cavs will likely not acquire Pittman, not because he is some worthless slug, but because he is valuable to the team that currently has his rights.

The quoted blog is no bible; the objective of the post is to open your mind to the possibility that YOU may be wrong.

Different perception of the same scenario is evident. Ultimately, we will see.

Stopped.
 
Proposed trade is not one sided to Heat; trade favors Cavaliers. Miller's contract is he price of center prospect acquisition (not to mention he IS the better player). However, Cavs will likely not acquire Pittman, not because he is some worthless slug, but because he is valuable to the team that currently has his rights.

The quoted blog is no bible; the objective of the post is to open your mind to the possibility that YOU may be wrong.

Different perception of the same scenario is evident. Ultimately, we will see.

Stopped.

At this point with Miller's injuries and last 2-3 year of season stats, Gibson is the better player. Period. Sad to say so, but better shooter, better defender. Only thing Miller has is better passing, and even that's overrated.

If you guys paid attention, everyone LeBron has wanted to be his teammate has been garbage.

Laura Hughes, Shaq, Antwan, Miller

Hell he wanted Bibby, garbage. Do I need to continue? LeBron is trying to be the MJ of GM's instead of the MJ of 3-peats.
 
I would like to see something like CLE sending Gibson, Harangody and Graham to MIA for Mike Miller and Dexter Pittman.

Cavs absorb Miller's contract anf fill their vacant SG position, while acquiring a developmental center with potentially higher ceiling than those they currently have. Gibson can return to the harem of the king with no crown.

Seriously tho, Gibson would help them, but thankfully not too much, as he is likely to be injured or pregnant when MIA needs him most.

Apparently this is the proposed trade that launched a little tit for tat... Objectively, it is not a bad proposal for either team. In fact I think the heat would not do it if anybody was to object...I think the only objection the Cavs would have would be cap flexibility, and perhaps the idea that all of their centers are projects. Some have argued on this board that the cavs would be better served using next years probable lottery to obtain a higher cieling center prospect..

That said, I think it will not happen. Gibson has been a team player for the cavs since before his draft, and like Z, I think the organization values his loyalty. I don't think there is any love lost between LeBron and Daniel, so I don't think Lebron would be an advocate. I also am not 100% sure owner Dan would sign off on any trade thatnmakes the heat more likely to win a ring.
 
Samardo Samuels got minutes on an NBA team. Let's package him with Baron Davis...

When did missing 6 weeks to a knee scope become "hurt most of the season?"
 
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after that perhaps we should trade varejao for Chris Johnson and brandon roy. roys contract being the price of the trade
 

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