What are the Cavs going to do at C?

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Look folks.

Anderson Varejao is not the answer at C. He's going to be 29 whenever basketball starts again. When he did play C full time last year he had bad ribs, a bad hip, a bad back and a fractured jaw and that was before the ligament tear in the foot. Wine-n-Gold said he's one of the next dominos.

And he might be. A healthy Varejao is a great trade asset to a team that is in contention and it's possible he can be turned into something for the future while helping in the present. His contract is friendly considering how much people overpay for that type of talent.

 

[Tornicade]

Varejao was playing Injured from Injuries in the offseason that required surgery.

Fractured jaws are freak injuries.

Really this hating players on the sole basis of age is just ridiculous.

as far as the robin comments. no Irving isnt the man he is a piece. the cavs still need a goto scorer.

if irving is the goto scoring it doesnt matter who the cavs get where they wont make it through the playoffs.

if some of you were dallas fans you would of had kidd and marion moved out cause they were too old and the team rebuilt because of multiple first round exits. some of you would of demanded dirk trade cause he was soft

 

[NarlCavs]

I still believe you need some quality at the C position to be a legit contender. You also need a scoring threat or post presence at either C or PF. When you have an opportunity to get a good young C prospect you need to take advantage of that. I think Thompson level players are available in every draft. I do like Thompson as a prospect and think he'll have a long solid career too.

Competent level C's are not easy to come by and there won't be a long list available every season. I don't see any realistically available now and it's not like there are a bunch readily available in the coming years either.
We still have a long way to go in the building process but it's going to have to be C by committee in the coming years and it could get ugly at times. Interior scoring in the halfcourt offense could be tough too. I'd just take chances on young C's possibly through small trades or free agency in the next few years and hope you get lucky and find one who can provide some solid minutes.

 

[daddywags]

I really dislike all of the international competition these guys play in the summer. It seems too many of Varejao's injuries have either come in the "offseason" (of which there is basically none for him) or either have been the result of his never having a chance to properly rest from the gruel of an 82 game NBA schedule. It is one (small) factor that argues against taking a foreign big man who is committed to playing every possible competition for his home country in the summer. And, for the record, I don't think NBA players should be playing for the United States in international competition, either. Personally, I'd rather watch a bunch of kids from college try to overachieve against the odds than watch a bunch of NBA players try not to step in it by losing a game to some other country.

 

[AMC]

I said this a few months ago, but a good deal for Varejao could be from the Spurs who are trying to add defensive guys.

Splitter, James Anderson, McDyess, and a pick for Andy, and Sessions.

This gives the Cavs a young option at SG and at C. And also assets in McDyess and the pick. Plus I think the Spurs would love to get Andy and a somewhat replacement for Hill in Sessions.

 

[czvo]

I said this a few months ago, but a good deal for Varejao could be from the Spurs who are trying to add defensive guys.

Splitter, James Anderson, McDyess, and a pick for Andy, and Sessions.

This gives the Cavs a young option at SG and at C. And also assets in McDyess and the pick. Plus I think the Spurs would love to get Andy and a somewhat replacement for Hill in Sessions.

I can't see them giving up a pick and Splitter.

 

[AMC]

I can't see them giving up a pick and Splitter.

Doesn't necessary have to be a first, but I agree.

 

[NarlCavs]

I forgot how old Splitter is. He'll turn 27 next season. He really isn't that young player with potential that we see him as.

Not a bad trade idea but I'm not sure Sessions is a Spurs type player.

 

[Green Lantern]

This is why the TT pick upset me... Not so much because I think TT is a bad player or will be a bad player but because C is more important positionally and a lot harder to find...

The other thing that is very noticeable when looking at the 2012 & 2011 draft classes is that the strengths and weaknesses were the complete opposite of one another and if the Cavs played their cards right, they would be setting themselves up in a great position... The 2011 class was a strong center and point guard class while the wings and forwards were a bit weak... The 2012 class is a weak center and point guard class while it's excellent at the wing and forward positions... If the Cavs could have came away with Irving & a center that would be sitting in a lot better position then they currently are in my mind.. They're still in a position to grab a good wing player, that didn't matter either way, but taking a PF might hurt them... We'll see...

In addition to all of that: it's hard enough finding a good center but finding a center that compliments TT will be harder because TT possess the skill set of most centers... The centers that fit with TT are hard to come by and why I worry he might be relegated to a 3rd big man role which isn't bad but not what you fully expect at #4...

The 2012 class isn't going to producing any worthwhile centers, so it's likely the Cavs take a wing player and hope for Drummond in 2013...

Similar thoughts for me as well..finding a quality big is hard and unless a team is will to part with one(what the???) it's got to be drafted.
Who knows what will happen to the season coming up the cap,FA's...add to that Andy is becoming injury prone,Hollins is a third backup and who knows what Edrin is (backup)..eh from little I saw it sure didn't look dominant to me.Sometimes players have height but don't have the skills to use to use it too well.
So once again we're going to have to wait to see how this developes.

 

[Tornicade]

I said this a few months ago, but a good deal for Varejao could be from the Spurs who are trying to add defensive guys.

Splitter, James Anderson, McDyess, and a pick for Andy, and Sessions.

This gives the Cavs a young option at SG and at C. And also assets in McDyess and the pick. Plus I think the Spurs would love to get Andy and a somewhat replacement for Hill in Sessions.

What do you gain from this. San Antonio picks are going to be late in the first round. You already have a roster full of young talent to the point where picks have to be guaranteed to make the roster. Mcdyess? really and you get splitter who is almost as old as varejao and nowhere near as effective.

this is what I would classify as trading to trade and not something that improves the team.

Once again your trading one of the top 15 centers in the league performance wise for trash.

enough of the premptive strike mentality. How about letting the roster play a few games. assess the roster and move accordingly from there.

Our next moves will be more focused on next year as opposed to 4 years down the road. Then potentially at mid season if there is one they can reassess needs at that point.

 

[Bohemond]

What do you gain from this. San Antonio picks are going to be late in the first round. You already have a roster full of young talent to the point where picks have to be guaranteed to make the roster. Mcdyess? really and you get splitter who is almost as old as varejao and nowhere near as effective.

this is what I would classify as trading to trade and not something that improves the team.

Once again your trading one of the top 15 centers in the league performance wise for trash.

enough of the premptive strike mentality. How about letting the roster play a few games. assess the roster and move accordingly from there.

Our next moves will be more focused on next year as opposed to 4 years down the road. Then potentially at mid season if there is one they can reassess needs at that point.

Houston has supposedly been extremely interested in the past: How about Thabeet, Jordan Hill (or Terrence Williams) and Motijeonas (sp) or NYs 2012 pick (top 5 protected) for AV and Harongody or just AV.

 

[AMC]

What do you gain from this. San Antonio picks are going to be late in the first round. You already have a roster full of young talent to the point where picks have to be guaranteed to make the roster. Mcdyess? really and you get splitter who is almost as old as varejao and nowhere near as effective.

this is what I would classify as trading to trade and not something that improves the team.

Once again your trading one of the top 15 centers in the league performance wise for trash.

enough of the premptive strike mentality. How about letting the roster play a few games. assess the roster and move accordingly from there.

Our next moves will be more focused on next year as opposed to 4 years down the road. Then potentially at mid season if there is one they can reassess needs at that point.

This definitely would improve us for the future, James Anderson is a young SG with potential. And Splitter is 26 right now, he still has room to grow. Plus the Cavs could just buyout McDyess in a trade like that.

Just because you haven't heard of these players on the "all knowing" ESPN doesn't mean they are trash.

 

[Silky Smooth]

I said this a few months ago, but a good deal for Varejao could be from the Spurs who are trying to add defensive guys.

Splitter, James Anderson, McDyess, and a pick for Andy, and Sessions.

This gives the Cavs a young option at SG and at C. And also assets in McDyess and the pick. Plus I think the Spurs would love to get Andy and a somewhat replacement for Hill in Sessions.

I like this trade. My only thing is would San Antonio go all in and give up some talent for 1 more title run or would they save their young talent and let their team as constructed just play?

 

[AMC]

I like this trade. My only thing is would San Antonio go all in and give up some talent for 1 more title run or would they save their young talent and let their team as constructed just play?

I was thinking that too, they just swapped Hill who is still pretty young for Leonard, I don't think that was part of a youth movement. I just think they really wanted a new SF instead of RJ.

 

[cavfanintexas]

I have no problem with trading AV but we better get something better that the shit that has been proposed. Name 15 centers that are better than AV? Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, Andrew Bogut, Brook Lopez, Joakim Noah, Al Jefferson, Marc Gasol and Nene Hilario. The rest of the center are either older or bring less to the betterment of the team. So if we are going to trade him I would want a top 10 pick in 2012 and young player ( under 22 ) with growth potential.