Will The Cavs Make a Major Move At The Trade Deadline?

[glockcoma]

Varejao, Zeller, and TT for Love. Love gets to be paired with a superstar and possible future all-star backcourt combo, and then we can draft our small forward of the future this off-season in Shabazz and then move up to draft one of the centers as well. Now we have the ULTIMATE stretch 4 big man. Timberwolves get a great player in Varejao and two young prospects. Win-win.

Give up our only 2 centers? You keep either Andy or Zellar, throw Boobie or another player in, and you'd have to give up a 1st round draft pick. Even then I'm not sure the package would be sweet enough for Minny to agree.

 

[Mdog1]

I hope we stay far, far, far away from Gordon, and his A) busted knees, and B) shitty attitude.

 

[Bill Walton.]

I'd wonder what it would take to get DeAndre Jordan from the clippers.

I believe he has a no trade clause though for an entire year. His contract is pretty large

 

[FairWeatherFan?]

so cavs give up the worst package yet get the best player involved in the trade....

While taking on salary and providing salary relief....this is all predicated on Ferry wanting to dump Horford and go after his own Big3. Horford, picks and one less guard for Love is near equal value for the Wolves, especially now that Love has told Kahn he stands by his comments and the whole league knows.

 

[FairWeatherFan?]

Those are largely crappy picks that would all fall out of the top 10.

You don't trade arguably the best power forward in the league and not even get that team's lottery pick back in return.

As someone else said, why would they pass on our top 5 pick (likely) this year for the 2014 pick that with Kevin Love on the Cavs would be in the high teens (we'd easily be a playoff team).

I applaud people for thinking out of the box, but if it is not realistic at least in theory it is a waste of time.

I would be willing to give up this year's pick to get the deal done. This is the kind of deal Grant has been waiting for, the reason we stockpile assets.

Either way, the Love situation is one to watch. It has the early feel of Melo.

 

[Mac]

Isn't there a fantasy section of this board? One for horrific bad trade ideas like those above with Kevin Love?

Let's keep that garbage in there...thanks.

 

[Numbers Guy]

Bucher on Cavs:

The Raptors and Cavs are eager to make a trade, according to Bucher, who adds that he thinks at least one deal will get done either this month or next. Aside from that, most teams are playing it cool with still more than two months to go before the trade deadline.

 

[CavsFinals2016]

Bucher on Cavs: The Raptors and Cavs are eager to make a trade, according to Bucher, who adds that he thinks at least one deal will get done either this month or next. Aside from that, most teams are playing it cool with still more than two months to go before the trade deadline.

TT for JV?

 

[Kizzle]

Love to me is the prototypical 2012 PF. Best one in the game imo...and people think we can make ANY type of pakage to get him? lol Wow. Guy is a monster, unless we someone get 4 1st round picks to our name that are unprotected AND a young player better than TT AND would be willing to take on cap no way we could get Love without moving Kyrie. On top of that Minny has someothing in Rubio so I dont even think theyd want Kyrie

 

[Tornicade]

Isn't there a fantasy section of this board? One for horrific bad trade ideas like those above with Kevin Love?

Let's keep that garbage in there...thanks.

how is any thread regarding trade speculation anything but fantasy

 

[Zone]

how is any thread regarding trade speculation anything but fantasy

I think Mac means that the fantasy trade proposals should be posted in the trade ideas section, whereas this thread is more conversation towards the possibility we'll make a trade and what type of trade that could be (ie, obtaining prospects/picks as opposed to going after an immediate difference-maker).

Even the safari's that were posted in the cavstalk forum had some fantasy proposals. It's bound to happen with such a dynamic topic

 

[LNance]

Av & Waton/Gibson. Separate or together they are important assists that need to turn into Future Assists. The Sooner the Better!

 

[CleveRocks]

Bucher on Cavs:

I dont think he means with each other... There are quite a few teams waiting somewhat patiently to get better when an injured star returns, (Lakers, Bulls, Mavs for example) but teams like Cleveland (even after AV returns) and Toronto ( after Bargs returns) cant exepct to be really competitive in the league. So they are shopping the assets they have early. AV, Boobie and Waltons contract plus some of the many second rounders are in play and ought to be, but we shall see if they return anything of value. But the sad truth is that this year, a trade is very likely to be the highlight of the season.

 

[ajz20]

After the results so far I feel like 1-2 major moves must be made by the end of the summer besides the draft. Being a lottery team next year may have some strong negative long term effects on the fan base in both tv coverage and attendence,. Many may not recall that in the dark days 20-25 games were not even on TV in CLE due to very low interest in the team, and their were nights with 6-7,000 people in the stands (unofficially)
Another issue is making this team a viable winning option in 2014 when so many higher level players are available for FA. I really want to see a trade to add a veteran in their mid to late 20's who is considered a huge upgrade over the CJ Miles, TT and Gee's of the world. Rebuilding is fine, but next year will be year 3 and putting out a team that struggles to win 30 games would be unacceptable.

The biggest nightmare is still being a lottery team two years from now. I have a feeling this place would be a bit of a ghost town to be honest. I am optimistic that Grant will start to be much more aggressive in adding talent to put a 500. or higher quality team on the court in 2013-2014. Having a building block in Irving is great, but we can no longer (lie to ourselves and say that guarentees us anything then a PG who is an explosive scorer on a losing franchise! Basically we need to take the rose colored glasses off starting the trade deadline and 2013 summer and demand some serious upgrades to the roster besides just making a draft pick in the top 6 in a mediocre draft and pretending it will fix many of the major wholes on the roster long term.

 

[rabman_gold]

After the results so far I feel like 1-2 major moves must be made by the end of the summer besides the draft. Being a lottery team next year may have some strong negative long term effects on the fan base in both tv coverage and attendence,. Many may not recall that in the dark days 20-25 games were not even on TV in CLE due to very low interest in the team, and their were nights with 6-7,000 people in the stands (unofficially)
Another issue is making this team a viable winning option in 2014 when so many higher level players are available for FA. I really want to see a trade to add a veteran in their mid to late 20's who is considered a huge upgrade over the CJ Miles, TT and Gee's of the world. Rebuilding is fine, but next year will be year 3 and putting out a team that struggles to win 30 games would be unacceptable.

The biggest nightmare is still being a lottery team two years from now. I have a feeling this place would be a bit of a ghost town to be honest. I am optimistic that Grant will start to be much more aggressive in adding talent to put a 500. or higher quality team on the court in 2013-2014. Having a building block in Irving is great, but we can no longer (lie to ourselves and say that guarentees us anything then a PG who is an explosive scorer on a losing franchise! Basically we need to take the rose colored glasses off starting the trade deadline and 2013 summer and demand some serious upgrades to the roster besides just making a draft pick in the top 6 in a mediocre draft and pretending it will fix many of the major wholes on the roster long term.

Not just this, but to force our core and convince them to keep up a positive attitude isn't something you can do consistently by lose 9 games out of every 10. It will destroy the mentality of the team, turn them into losers, and maybe set us back even further. A risk that all of you might've known about.

I always felt that it was appropriate to make a move this deadline that'll leave an impact. I don't know what it'll be, but it might be a little bigger than the last two deadlines. And Chris always looks for that silver lining. Don't take your eyes off that moment at least. It will impact the team (and could go one way or the other).