Yanks Deal For Detroit's Granderson

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Which is why Detroit did it for one.. They have to shed salary and if they can get someone similar to Granderson way cheaper, they'd do it. Edwin Jackson was traded by them too but he is overrated. Really fizzled off in the 2nd half.

I know, I understand why Detroit did it, I just don't agree with the guy who was making it seem like the Yankees are tossing away some stud that they'll be missing out on.

The Yankees traded Jackson to Detroit for Granderson. They'll get Granderson for the next five years while Detroit develops Jackson, then they'll trade back for Jackson when he's in his prime and give Detroit another prospect to develop for them :chuckles:.

 

[MoFlo]

Okay, I usually don't like what the Yankees do in free agency because its unfair, but they did give up their best prospect to get Granderson.. Austin Jackson is highly regarded as a prospect with tons of upside.

All Yankee prospects have "tons of upside"..

Fact is, they got one of the best CFs in the game w/out having to give up Joba, Hughes, or even their current starting CF, whom they can now use to trade for another star..

I don't know who I'm more pissed at.. the Yanks or every other team for continuing to trade with them while not getting more in return..

 

[PIP]

Sweet fucking deal to be honest.. Absolutely love Granderson.. In fact, I stated on here two seasons ago I would take him over Sizemore.. Still would..

Hate to lose Austin Jackson, but I don't see him being any better than Grandy.. Though, some suggest he has some Andrew McCutcheon type talent

Great deal...Now we just need to get Aroldis Chapman and call it an off season...

 

[Damage]

Granderson is not nearly as good as people think for one. His OBP really slipped off last year and he's already 29 so its not like he has a bunch more developing to do.

That said, the Yankees gave up virtually nothing for him here. He will be a big boost to their outfield defense if nothing else.

The Tigers big spending ways appear to be over.

You do realize that Austin Jackson was INT ROY and was ranked as the 27th overall prospect in baseball. He's pretty much a younger Curtis Granderson: Same tools, same make up, same OF skills.

They also gave up him and Ian Kennedy (who still has the potential to be a very good SP).

That's not "nothing"

 

[AZ_]

Prospects are "virtually nothing" to Yankee fans.

 

[Soda]

This deal is about the clincher for my liking for baseball, a game I played nearly all my life up to now.

"Ok Detroit, take this minor league stud for this major league stud. When Curtis is old and finished we'll take this guy you develop for us."

Bud Selig for new lead part in The Office.

 

[DougHeil]

I know, I understand why Detroit did it, I just don't agree with the guy who was making it seem like the Yankees are tossing away some stud that they'll be missing out on.

The Yankees traded Jackson to Detroit for Granderson. They'll get Granderson for the next five years while Detroit develops Jackson, then they'll trade back for Jackson when he's in his prime and give Detroit another prospect to develop for them :chuckles:.

While the Yanks have Granderson for the next five years and the Tigers have Jackson to develop and "maybe" be good for the next five years,;;

the Indians have a kid named Michael Brantley who is > either one of them.

 

[Chris]

Rich get richer, etc etc.

You know, Indians fans should be happy he's out of the division and that the Tribe is not in the AL East. Think about it. The ones who are REALLY affected by shit like this are the Rays Jays and Orioles. The Sox too, but they can buy FAs and stuff like the Yanks can so they can even it out.

Good trade.

 

[DougHeil]

Rich get richer, etc etc.

You know, Indians fans should be happy he's out of the division and that the Tribe is not in the AL East. Think about it. The ones who are REALLY affected by shit like this are the Rays Jays and Orioles. The Sox too, but they can buy FAs and stuff like the Yanks can so they can even it out.

Good trade.

lol Yeah. Just think if we were a Jays, Rays, or Birds fan? We can look forward to "never" winning a division title unless the league changes it's rules or puts in a salary cap. Gosh; that wouldn't be such a good feeling at all. I'd consider actually moving out of those cities if I lived in one of them, if only to start being a fan somewhere else. :chuckles:

 

[cdt]

We'll develop Brantley so that when Granderson's exiting his prime we can ship Brantley to NYC for a ball signed by Murderer's Row.

It's hilarious to be honest, we and the other small market teams are nothing but Farm Teams for the Yankees Sox Mets Dodgers Angels and etc...

I highly doubt we ever get back to where we were in the 90's unless we get an owner with some deep pockets and a willingness to spend it. Dolan's "Come to the park and watch this shit and then I'll go out and get players" philosophy is a fucking joke.

 

[AM24]

If you're a tribe fan, and you think the Yankees ripped the Tigers off (which I do not), then you should be happy about this trade.

If you're a tribe fan, why concern yourself with anything except the teams in your own division? That is your competition for the prize (the playoffs). Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen. There have been numerous championship teams that came from the wild card this decade. Anything can happen, especially in a 5 game division series.

 

[Witness_JJ]

What i think that alot of people are forgetting, is that Detroit didnt even have to trade their top 2 players to get what they got. Think about it, they get 4 MAJOR LEAGUE READY players that will contribute right away.

Jackson, who many thought was New Yorks top prospect, a guy that can do it all, prototypical 5 tool player, and is projected to hit for better average than Granderson ever will. and then you got Scherzer and Schlereth, probably Arizonas top two young pitchers, two guys who are going to be key contributors in the Majors this year. If you dont know who Scherzer and Schlereth are, you will find out very very soon. Scherzer could be their closer this season, or their #2 in the rotation. Then they add in Coke, who will go right into their bullpen and contribute.

It just kills me that the Indians traded away their 2 best players (Victor and Lee) and get no where near to a top prospect in return, and as a matter of fact only got 1 major league ready ball player (Masterson). We get guys that are 18 years old who throw hard, and yet have to have tommy john surgery, and guys that are projected to be nothing more than backups and utility players. Whereas Detroit traded two good players, not their top 2 players for 4 major league ready ball players. Put it this way, I definitely think that the Tigers made out on this trade, yeah the Yanks got the premier player in the deal, but the 4 guys that Detoit got are no slouches by any means.

 

[AM24]

It just kills me that the Indians traded away their 2 best players (Victor and Lee) and get no where near to a top prospect in return, and as a matter of fact only got 1 major league ready ball player (Masterson). We get guys that are 18 years old who throw hard, and yet have to have tommy john surgery, and guys that are projected to be nothing more than backups and utility players. Whereas Detroit traded two good players, not their top 2 players for 4 major league ready ball players. Put it this way, I definitely think that the Tigers made out on this trade, yeah the Yanks got the premier player in the deal, but the 4 guys that Detoit got are no slouches by any means.

I agree with your basic premise, but this is like comparing apples and oranges.

Many trades made in the MLB can be compared with others, but many cannot. We traded Lee and Victor for a reason. They have limited service time left and were going to leave, and even that service time carried a pretty large price for a team not expected to contend.

This trade is a whole different animal. When you're trading players that are in their prime and are under team control for years (Granderson's contract runs thru 2013 with an option for 2014), you're going to get a lot more in return. Teams have wisened up on this front. They realize that having a younger player with 2+ years of service team is an extremely valuable asset. About time, I say.

 

[macbdog]

I think it was a pretty even deal, personally. I think the Yanks did good but I don't see this as a deal for fans of other teams to get themselves worked up into a payroll tizzy about. The Yankees had to surrender some talent to get Granderson, unlike when they toss around 100M contracts. I would think that a FA signing would have folks falling on their 'I don't watch MLB anymore because of these deals yet I somehow know who the players involved are!' swords. But whatever. Some quick thoughts:

- I think the D-Backs did a great job. They snagged a young top pitching prospect on the low in Ian Kennedy. I think Edwin Jackson has blossomed into, at worst, a no. 3 starter. I think they returned two good young starters for the price of one + a reliever prospect.

- Austin Jackson has the tools but I just haven't seen enough production from him to get giddy. Reminds me too much of Corey Patterson.

- Curtis Granderson has been living off that 2007 season. He is a very good player, seemed to always have good games against the Tribe, but his numbers have trended back towards expectations since. I think what he will do is replicate Johnny Damon's production minus the overall onbase skills and add better defense. This is what made the deal worthwhile for the Yanks.

- Granderson is not quite in Sizemore's class- he doesn't have Grady's power, he doesn't steal bases like Grady, he doesn't have as good of an eye as Grady, and he can't blame injuries for his regression this year like Grady can. He is a very good player but this whole argument just reminds me of the old 'Robbie Alomar/Carlos Baerga' stuff back before Baerga fell off the wagon.

- Scherzer is an intrguing arm but I consider him to be a tease because of the injury concerns. he has electric stuff, but he not only has to stay healthy but work on his control. I know he gets the great projections and all, but I wonder if he is a guy who it will take 3-4 years for him to learn how to harness his stuff- kind of like Jackson.

- Coke isn't much of a loss, but the Tigers had BP issues in recent years which him and Schlereth can help. It does free up Dombrowski to trade a higher-priced reliever now.

I like the deal for each of the teams involved. I don't think any team outright 'won' the deal at this point, and the Tigers did a decent job getting a return on two guys that they were kind of forced to deal. I don't like Jackson but I won't let my bias cause me to poo-poo the deal for the Tigers; I will let his play do that. It will also be interesting to see what happens to Granderson, if the decline in average is something he can reverse and if he can be more of a basestealer going foward. Either way, intriguing deal and it will be a fun one to follow this upcoming year.

 

[CBBI]

Put me in the "not overly impressed" with Austin Jackson camp as well.

I know he's young for his classification and should continue to develop, but 236 strikeouts to only 96 walks with only 13 home runs the last two years....

I just don't see him being all that different from Michael Brantley, who I really don't think is all that good either.

Maybe he will develop power and plate discipline as he gets older, but he's been trending the opposite direction the last three years. Showing less power and a worse K/BB ratio every classification he's gone to.