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Napoli doesn't look like he catch anymore, but he's been OK I guess. Long term? Prob not.

I wouldn't rather pay grady, I just think people think it will be easy to replace his production if he were.

This offense struggled big time without him, and they NEED him...Which is why this sucks.

Thinking you can just go out and pick up whoever and think it's going to be better than a healthy Sizemore, probably going to end up disappointed.

When was the last time the Indians got consistent production from Sizemore lol? Man, you live in this fantasy world, where injuries don't derail people's careers. Alot of people saw this coming.
 
When was the last time the Indians got consistent production from Sizemore lol? Man, you live in this fantasy world, where injuries don't derail people's careers. Alot of people saw this coming.

You saw the injury to his opposite knee coming.

Hard to believe people haven't hired you to predict such things.
 
Actually, it isn't a terrible blow at all, because he has been worthless the last 3 years, so this is just the norm... Now they can actually address the need of an outfielder, instead of depending on an injury prone Sizemore.

There is also this thing called a trade.. They can happen.

And again, the offense has struggled....greatly, without Sizemore being healthy.

That's....the....point.
 
And that's why you go out and actually get a starter, instead of depending on him.
 
And that's why you go out and actually get a starter, instead of depending on him.

Oh, because even though everyone knows that Sizemore is an injury prone shitty player. They were still going to pawn off his 8-9 million on someone so they could actually afford someone else.
 
Watched the two interviews today on All Bets are Off. Acta first. Mark second.

GOOD interviews.

My takes on what will happen. Carmona and Sizemore decisions have to be made by October 26th. REAL soon. Every other decision made flows off of what we do with those two players. What I got from the interviews:

1. We will pick up Carmona's 7m option.
2. We are waiting for the opinion from the knee surgeon. What we do depends on that. We will try to negotiate a lesser deal with Sizemore no matter if he needs surgery or not. I don't have a feel if we allow him to walk or not if he doesn't need surgery.
3. We want Santana as the catcher. We want Marson as backup.
4. We need to find a good 1B.
5. LaPorta won't be around next year unless he truly wins and earns to play. I'm thinking he will not.
6. We need a good to great power hitter. Right handed OR left handed.
7. We will keep Duncan.

Many other decisions to make. That's what I got from the interviews though. Most everything revolves around what we do with Sizemore.
 
Duncan absolutely earned a spot on this team.
 
Saying Grady's production is hard to replace is like a deadbead dad's baby momma telling the new stepdad he's got big shoes to fill. We HAVEN'T had anything from Grady in 3 years. We'd be better of not counting on him for a change than trying to fantasize about him returning to an all-star caliber form.

If we don't offer for Prince the Dolans need to :gtfo:
 
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Saying Grady's production is hard to replace is like a deadbead dad's baby momma telling the knew stepdad he's got big shoes to fill. We HAVEN'T had anything from Grady in 3 years. We'd be better of not counting on him for a change than trying to fantasize about him returning to an all-star caliber form.

If we don't offer for Prince the Dolans need to :gtfo:

Grady hasn't been producing and we haven't been winning. That is kind of the point. We need a bat of that caliber in order to compete - and Grady is one that is already on our roster.

Until we sign Prince, that is. And Pujols. And trade for King Felix and A-Rod. If that doesn't happen, then the Dolans are cheap!!!
 
Is Sizemore better than Cuddyer and Willingham, who would come at or below the price of Sizemore?
 
Is Sizemore better than Cuddyer and Willingham, who would come at or below the price of Sizemore?

Depends on how you look at it - they MAY come below Grady for one year - but how many years is it going to take to sign them? Both guys are 32 and probably looking for a long-term deal.

I think that is the thing people miss - it isn't that paying Prince Fielder a ton of money for a year or two would be a big deal - it is the years it would require to sign these guys. If they get injured or their skills drop-off the team is handcuffed. If you need an example, look at what happened to this team after the Hafner, Westbrook, Grady, Wood and Carmona deals. If you go back and look - those were large contracts, but when a guy doesn't live up to it, a small-market team is screwed.

It just seems the fans that complain about not signing a guy like Fielder are the same ones complaining about a guy like Hafner being on the roster. That is the risk that is involved with signing long-term contracts. Hafner's was for $13 million a year - Fielder will be looking at contracts well over $20 million a year for a minimum of 5 years.
 
Depends on how you look at it - they MAY come below Grady for one year - but how many years is it going to take to sign them? Both guys are 32 and probably looking for a long-term deal.

I think that is the thing people miss - it isn't that paying Prince Fielder a ton of money for a year or two would be a big deal - it is the years it would require to sign these guys. If they get injured or their skills drop-off the team is handcuffed. If you need an example, look at what happened to this team after the Hafner, Westbrook, Grady, Wood and Carmona deals. If you go back and look - those were large contracts, but when a guy doesn't live up to it, a small-market team is screwed.

It just seems the fans that complain about not signing a guy like Fielder are the same ones complaining about a guy like Hafner being on the roster. That is the risk that is involved with signing long-term contracts. Hafner's was for $13 million a year - Fielder will be looking at contracts well over $20 million a year for a minimum of 5 years.

There is a risk involved no matter what you do if you are a small market team. It's not a revelation. With Sizemore, we already know that the odds of him being injured again are far greater than the odds of not being injured. Why? Because we have three straight years of injuries that includes 4 or 5 surgeries and 6 DL appearances. Isn't that more of a gamble to take than signing a FA or making a trade that may or may not work out? I think so.

In all these discussions the idea that "trading" for a good player, whether it's an outfielder or a 1B is largely ignored. Why? In fact, just yesterday Mark A stated a trade was certainly in the cards this off season. Why do we constantly bring up FA players and ignore the better option?

I'm thinking we do probably sign a FA out there, but we will acquire that nice bat via trade.

More and more people do NOT want Sizemore back unless it's a much less salary based on incentives. Frankly, I have no idea why anyone would risk 9 million bucks on a player who has proven for 3 straight years he can't stay in the lineup.

What's that definition of insanity again?
 
There is a risk involved no matter what you do if you are a small market team. It's not a revelation. With Sizemore, we already know that the odds of him being injured again are far greater than the odds of not being injured. Why? Because we have three straight years of injuries that includes 4 or 5 surgeries and 6 DL appearances. Isn't that more of a gamble to take than signing a FA or making a trade that may or may not work out? I think so.

In all these discussions the idea that "trading" for a good player, whether it's an outfielder or a 1B is largely ignored. Why? In fact, just yesterday Mark A stated a trade was certainly in the cards this off season. Why do we constantly bring up FA players and ignore the better option?

I'm thinking we do probably sign a FA out there, but we will acquire that nice bat via trade.

More and more people do NOT want Sizemore back unless it's a much less salary based on incentives. Frankly, I have no idea why anyone would risk 9 million bucks on a player who has proven for 3 straight years he can't stay in the lineup.

What's that definition of insanity again?

I definitely agree that a trade is the more likely option.

As for Grady - I was all for picking up the options before this latest set-back. While it is stupid to rely on a guy who has an injury history like that, it is also stupid to nurse a guy back to health and right when he SHOULD be getting healthy, cut him loose. That's like cutting a guy a year after his Tommy John surgery.

But with the latest set-back there is no way he can get $9 million on the open market and approaching him to restructure his deal should be a no brainer.
 
Saying Grady's production is hard to replace is like a deadbead dad's baby momma telling the knew stepdad he's got big shoes to fill. We HAVEN'T had anything from Grady in 3 years. We'd be better of not counting on him for a change than trying to fantasize about him returning to an all-star caliber form.

If we don't offer for Prince the Dolans need to :gtfo:

Which is why the offense has struggled so much in his absence.

Jesus Christ, that's the fucking point.

And your last sentence pretty much tells me all I need to know about your perception of reality.
 
Watch Grady go to the Tigers and hit .270 with 30 homers. Would not shock me at all.
 

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