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The Finals | Game 1 | Cavs @ Warriors | June 2nd, 2016 | 9:00pm EST

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I didn't mind the defensive strategy on curry and Thompson, I'll live with their bench and role players getting shots. And the game plan of posting up love and LBJ worked okay but we need more cutters off that action - it's like the double teams were coming and we got nothing from it whereas when we doubles the Warriors got wide open layups. Post ups doesn't mean you have zero off ball action and cutting.


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I would be confident in that gameplan if Iggy didn't turn into Ray Allen against us last year. These dudes have the most confident role players i've ever seen. That's why OKC shut them down and went up 3-1. Klay and Curry will kill u anyways. You have to limit their other players. That's why they call themselves "strength in numbers"
 
Some of the strips on LeBron were legit but it really does amaze me how the refs will just stand by and watch LeBron get raked across the arms. They also rewarded the Warriors on every one of their flops. Green falls down on a LeBron drive - offensive foul. Green drives and stiff arms LeBron - foul on LeBron.

Who is the superstar here? Its crazy
 
Sorry man, live in a dream world if you want.

This was the game for them to steal.

LeBron had awful TO's, Kyrie was 7/22 and we blew our opportunity.

We don't match up with this team at all and we absolutely choked away a game 1 steal.

We now have to beat them 4 out of 6 games when we have lost what? 5 in a row to them?

This team choked tonight. Top to bottom they were terrible.


Every game is unique. A game where the Warriors role players played lights out is not necessarily the game to steal. When a team gets a well rounded performance from their entire team , they are often more deadly than getting 35 from Curry and having a weak bench performance. Basketball is a team sport in that way.

It's not about beating then 4 out of 6 games. all we have to do is win game two, and all of a sudden all of the pressure tilts to he Warriors because then hey lose home court.

The Cavs just have to be more fundamentally sound and I think Ty Lue made some straight rookie mistakes. Luckily, I don't think we were winning tonight no matter what Lue did because Livingston went absolutely bananas.

This game was not the game to steal. Shaun Livingston dropping 20+ is where the stealing ended.

But I saw a few encouraging things++ Kevin Love showed real promise and I think he is super playable in this series even in crunch time. Irving can get to any spot he needs to get to and can draw fouls , and LBJ was able to get to the basket.

The Warriors did a great job shutting JRs water off. He is a big part of the Cavs because he is the key component of our three point barrages. Take him out and our margin for error goes down ,and we have to execute more in he half court . We did an okay job for awhile too. But LeBroj got stripped a few too many times,.Irving took about 5 really bad22 footers. Dellavedova was ineffective and all he ended up doing was rilibg up Iguodala who went on a personal 7-0 run to erase the Cavs lead and lit the Warriors ahead at a modestly comfortable margin and allowed for Livingston to basically pop a shot his way to the Cavs getting outscored 15-0 at a crucial point in the game.

It didn't help that the refs decided to murder our momentum with reviewing a common folk for what felt like 20 minutes, I hated Lue not riding LeBron heavier...I hated Dellys sudden inability to put the ball in the basket because GS is not guarding him at all and we need him to score 10 points efficiently every night if they aren't going to guard him. And I really despised the lineup to start the fourth. We were only down 6 and I think Lue made a fatal mistake. LeBrkn should have been in the game or Love should have been in the game, the pace should have been snail-level until the entire big three was back on the floor, and we should have been playing through the post. Instead we had a weird version of thoae Cavs teams ran by Irving his first few years in the league that consistently sucked and we had that type of lineup trying to erase a six point deficit or at least not let it get out of hand. And they straight got murdered by Livingston and Iguodala.
 
29/41 (71%) shooting for Barnes, Bogut, Livingston, Iggy, Barbosa. That's just embarrassing.
 
I would be confident in that gameplan if Iggy didn't turn into Ray Allen against us last year. These dudes have the most confident role players i've ever seen. That's why OKC shut them down and went up 3-1. Klay and Curry will kill u anyways. You have to limit their other players. That's why they call themselves "strength in numbers"

Yeah you could be right. Iguodala and Livingston are the problem, seems like they kill us every time. Especially Iguodala.




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Was it really even an opportunity though? Yeah the "Splash Bros" played like shit but it almost feels like it was at the cost of role players such as Livingston/Barnes/Iggy doing whatever the fuck they want. Nothing about this loss felt like an anomaly, sadly. Well, except Klay/Curry combing for 20 points...


FUCK.

It was just the sequence in the 3rd.

The "make you feel better" explanation is "their role players will never do this again."

Cavs took these shots when it was within 2-4 points:

57-61 Kyrie wild guarded 2 missed
59-63 LeBron 24 foot 3 missed
66-67 LeBron 25 foot 3 missed
68-67 Delly missed runner
68-69 LeBron missed guarded 18 foot jumper
68-71 Delly TO

That was the game. That is 6 terrible possessions when the game was 4 points or less. Can't win against any good team playing that way, let alone the best team.
 
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If you guys can explain that to me and answer my questions and explain why it was a good gameplan by Lue and make it fucking make sense , i will never mention the name blatt or lue ever again. if i do, i will ask a MOD to ip ban me forever.

Personally I thought that the rotations were poor and that Frye should definitely have played more. But the isos and the post ups happened because the Warriors were switching the initial pick and roll
 
All I keep hearing everywhere (not here hopefully) is that Curry did a great job of trusting in his teammates and that gave the role players the ability to win the game lol.

Replace LeBron with Curry and imagine how different the narrative would be haha oh boy
 
LeBron:

- Our offense has to be better.

- If you allow 45 bench points and 25 points off turnovers that's not a good formula to win, especially on the road.
 
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I didn't mind the defensive strategy on curry and Thompson, I'll live with their bench and role players getting shots. And the game plan of posting up love and LBJ worked okay but we need more cutters off that action - it's like the double teams were coming and we got nothing from it whereas when we doubles the Warriors got wide open layups. Post ups doesn't mean you have zero off ball action and cutting.


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We definitely needed more action off the ball when we went to the post, but honestly, our post up % actually decreased as a % of all of our plays during the post season, and our offense has soared. I don't expect us to go to the post as much in the second game, and definitely not to Love because he was unable to score or draw fouls when Green was on him. In hindsight, our offense was thrown off what it was doing so well with all enpost feeds.
 
All I keep hearing everywhere (not here hopefully) is that Curry did a great job of trusting in his teammates and that gave the role players the ability to win the game lol.

Replace LeBron with Curry and imagine how different the narrative would be haha oh boy

Winning covers up all the warts.


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If you guys can explain that to me and answer my questions and explain why it was a good gameplan by Lue and make it fucking make sense , i will never mention the name blatt or lue ever again. if i do, i will ask a MOD to ip ban me forever.

I'll answer the question the moment you justify your premise. You asked why did Lue gameplan to play isolation ball, no?

Can you demonstrate that was Lue's plan? Because something tells me we just couldn't get into our offense due to the way the Warriors were playing us.

There's two sides to the ball.

Once the score started to get out of hand, yes, we went to isolation ball - but frankly, that's what got us back in the game and kept it close.

Our perimeter defense this game was fantastic. Our gameplan looked solid, defensively. Folks sitting in here acting like they knew Livingston would go off for 20 and Bogut would score in double digits.

It's easy to coach in hindsight.
 
Warriors = Broncos

just another cockblock to add to the Cleveland curse.
 
I'll answer the question the moment you justify your premise. You asked why did Lue gameplan to play isolation ball, no?

Can you demonstrate that was Lue's plan? Because something tells me we just couldn't get into our offense due to the way the Warriors were playing us.

There's two sides to the ball.

Once the score started to get out of hand, yes, we went to isolation ball - but frankly, that's what got us back in the game and kept it close.

Our perimeter defense this game was fantastic. Our gameplan looked solid, defensively. Folks sitting in here acting like they knew Livingston would go off for 20 and Bogut would score in double digits.

It's easy to coach in hindsight.

Great post.
 

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