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Safety Safari - Eric Murray of K.C.

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FiveThous said:
That was like 5 years ago. The last couple seasons he's seen slightly more playing time than 3rd round pick Chad Thomas.
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Yes, but this is priced in. If he was completely healthy right now, he wouldn’t be leaving KC. At one point he was absolutely dominant. That point may have passed, and the cancer likely aged him, and these are the reasons why he can be had for something reasonable, along with:

Berry suffers from equinophobia, a fear of horses. His condition is frequently brought on by the Kansas City Chiefs' mascot, Warpaint.[93]Although in recent years, he has been getting help for it.
 
I am not convinced Kindred isn't better than over half the potential safeties out there. Main reason Peppers didn't get to the pro bowl is we had Kindred on our roster so he played almost 40% of the snaps.

Draft one for depth, use the money we would use for safety to improve the real position of need, OLB. I think Kindred helped make Peppers expendable much like Corbett made Ziettler expendable. Sure Ziettler is better than Corbett, especially at this point, just like Peppers is better than Kindred, but strong safety we legitimately had 2 people good enough to start.

We should stop the safety safari and start "What the fuck else does Dorsey have up his sleeve?" safari.
 
Lee said:
I am not convinced Kindred isn't better than over half the potential safeties out there. Main reason Peppers didn't get to the pro bowl is we had Kindred on our roster so he played almost 40% of the snaps.

Draft one for depth, use the money we would use for safety to improve the real position of need, OLB. I think Kindred helped make Peppers expendable much like Corbett made Ziettler expendable. Sure Ziettler is better than Corbett, especially at this point, just like Peppers is better than Kindred, but strong safety we legitimately had 2 people good enough to start.

We should stop the safety safari and start "What the fuck else does Dorsey have up his sleeve?" safari.
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I second this.
 
The Record's Art Stapleton is "hearing rumors" the Browns may be "making a play" to try and get S Eric Berry from the Chiefs.
Stapleton is a Giants beat writer, so take this with a massive grain of salt. But the connection is there with GM John Dorsey knowing Berry from their time together in Kansas City, and Dorsey was the one who handed Berry his record-setting contract. Berry, though, is not the same player anymore after Achilles' issues and has played three games since the start of the 2017 campaign. The Chiefs are expected to rid themselves of Berry after signing Tyrann Mathieu.
 
Looking at the landscape, am I wrong to just say we should try to fill the safety rotation spot with our 2nd or 3rd and then assess the deadline market for safeties? If the team plays to expectations and is positioned for the playoffs?

None of the guys out there are very exciting to me, at least not at the market price. I would have taken Thomas, because he's an exceptional player but most of the other guys, even Berry are just more meh options to me.
 
The big reason Peppers is a loss is not because of his skills as a box safety. The idea of box safety is basically disappearing. What made Peppers so valuable is his ability to play in coverage or in the box. Offenses did not know what his role would be, and pre-snap, it made them treat Peppers' area of the field more conservatively.

I do not think the Browns need to worry about finding a true box safety. They truly need an OLB. If they can find a starting playoff-caliber OLB, then I think they can get away with Kindred+depth at the other safety spot.
 
jking948 said:
The big reason Peppers is a loss is not because of his skills as a box safety. The idea of box safety is basically disappearing. What made Peppers so valuable is his ability to play in coverage or in the box. Offenses did not know what his role would be, and pre-snap, it made them treat Peppers' area of the field more conservatively.

I do not think the Browns need to worry about finding a true box safety. They truly need an OLB. If they can find a starting playoff-caliber OLB, then I think they can get away with Kindred+depth at the other safety spot.
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Just looking at some free agent lists and KJ Wright is out there from Seattle.
 
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