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Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

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Is Kevin Love a Hero for Saving a Dog?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 48.3%
  • Too Right!

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Hotter than Jimmy G

    Votes: 15 25.9%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 22.4%

  • Total voters
    58
Leonard is Spencer Hawes. I don't want him. If we don't get Zach Collins from the Blazers we should shop Love else where.

I think just like Hawes did, Leonard could be a player that helps the Cavs have a functional offense if they trade Love away. I wouldn't value him as a future piece but he could be someone that plays out the season and helps give us spacing. He would help smooth out the big man rotation. If we haven't found a better player via trade or someone stepping up at the end of the season, we can resign him for a short deal.

Portland's salaries becomes more of an issue than anything at this point with the players people are throwing around as who we could possibly take back. That SF depth could be depleted real quick once you look at who needs to go for them to match salaries.
 
With Boston losing Horford to Philly, and the Celtics most likely losing Morris and Rozier: I think there is an opportunity to explore a trade of Love to the Celtics.

Hayward and the Memphis Pick would be a win win for both teams... Thoughts?
That Hayward deal is a really bad one. We’d have to get at least the Memphis pick to make taking on that deal worthwhile. Danny Ainge is known to really value draft picks, so I’d be surprised if he traded it.
 
Someone pointed out on the Ringer (and I’m sure it’s been pointed out here somewhere) that all this parity is going to really boost a guy like Loves trade value. All these teams are going to feel they finally are a Kevin Love away from a championship whereas in the past 5+ years that wasn’t the case because of GS / Miami. Could get into a small bidding war
 
I can't believe they found someone to take Whiteside...its amazing what some of these teams can pull off.


His contract is an expiring and he has depth where they need it. Honestly not surprised it was moved.
 
I really like Kevin Love, He really was the one that sacrifice his game the most, under the Lebron regime, but with that said fuck him, I’m wondering if he took that contract knowing he was going to basically take the year off with that toe problem that was bothering him before he aggravated early in the season last year, Now there whispers that he might want to be traded, here’s my answer to him, ball the fuck out the first half of the season, if were as bad as people think were going to be, and your health and number are were they need to be, it will be a win win for both of us....... You go to a playoff bound team with your nice contract , we get good assets.....
 
I really like Kevin Love, He really was the one that sacrifice his game the most, under the Lebron regime, but with that said fuck him, I’m wondering if he took that contract knowing he was going to basically take the year off with that toe problem that was bothering him before he aggravated early in the season last year, Now there whispers that he might want to be traded, here’s my answer to him, ball the fuck out the first half of the season, if were as bad as people think were going to be, and your health and number are were they need to be, it will be a win win for both of us....... You go to a playoff bound team with your nice contract , we get good assets.....
Ahhh. Whispers. Has to be true
 
With Whiteside now on board with Jurcik when he comes back, does this make Collins expendable?

If I’m the Cavs, I ask for Collins, 1 of their young SG’s in either Simons or Trent Jr, Nassir Little (centerpiece) and Kent Bazemore’s expiring as the main salary filler.

Using the 125% factor for trade $, a deal of Love for Bazemore/Little/Trent Jr falls a mere 400K short of salary needing sent over by the Blazers.

Bazemore/Little/Simons would work. Again I’m asking for Collins as well, but the last 3 I just mentioned would work with Little being the centerpiece in the deal. Bazemore’s 19+ million contract would be the main salary filler, but his contract is an expiring, which would also act as an attractive piece come trade deadline.

For the Blazers, acquiring Love could put their roster over the top.

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: CJ McCollum
SF: Rodney Hood
PF: Kevin Love
C: Hassan Whiteside/JusefJurcik
 
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The good news with this Portland scenario is the timing of it. They just signed Little today, whose cap hold for this season will be 2.1 million. The Blazers can’t trade him for 30 days from today. This gives the Cavs 30 days to explore other deals, like obviously JR, to open the roster spaces necessary. The Cavs currently have 1 roster spot open so a Love trade minus JR could take 3 players back as is from a roster standpoint. A 4 player return would require 1 other move by the Cavs prior to the 30 day clock they are now to trade for nassir Little.
 
With Whiteside now on board with Jurcik when he comes back, does this make Collins expendable?

If I’m the Cavs, I ask for Collins, 1 of their young SG’s in either Simons or Trent Jr, Nassir Little (centerpiece) and Kent Bazemore’s expiring as the main salary filler.

Using the 125% factor for trade $, a deal of Love for Bazemore/Little/Trent Jr falls a mere 400K short of salary needing sent over by the Blazers.

Bazemore/Little/Simons would work. Again I’m asking for Collins as well, but the last 3 I just mentioned would work with Little being the centerpiece in the deal. Bazemore’s 19+ million contract would be the main salary filler, but his contract is an expiring, which would also act as an attractive piece come trade deadline.

For the Blazers, acquiring Love could put their roster over the top.

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: CJ McCollum
SF: Rodney Hood
PF: Kevin Love
C: Hassan Whiteside/JusefJurcik

I follow the Blazers a little but and I don't think they traded Turner for Bazemore just to ship him out again. They desperately needed shooting and spacing even before Seth Curry left. Bazemore, for all of his drawbacks, gives them both. He's better off the ball than Turner. With Love's injury history, I don't think they'd be willing to take the risk of giving up Bazemore. If they did the trade you're suggesting and Love goes out for a long stretch again, they're back to having no 3pt shooting or spacing to free up Dame and McCollum.

I also doubt they'd trade Little at this point. They're very high on him and think they got a steal (not convinced he's a steal, but it was a good value). They also love Simons, and with Turner gone, he'll see a lot more minutes. Collins would have to be expendable in a trade for Love, I'd imagine, but until Nurkic comes back midseason, that would leave them really thin at PF and C since they've lost Aminu and traded Leonard and Harkless. (They might lose Layman, too.) None of that would matter, anyway, since the money would be so far apart without Bazemore in the mix.

It's more likely they stand pat until the trade deadline and see what happens with Nurkic and Love health-wise. If by the deadline Nurkic is 100%, Whiteside becomes somewhat expendable. Or maybe they figure they can afford to give up Bazemore and roll the dice with Love if he's healthy. If Nurkic isn't 100%, are they more likely to move Bazemore and keep Whiteside? Maybe. It just seems a safer from Portland's perspective to wait, and even then, a lot has to fall into place. They're in an interesting spot given what else is happening out west. If Kawhi goes to the Lakers, I don't know, maybe Portland gets desperate.
 
I would agree if Hood didn’t just re up with Portland and is now slated to start at SF for the Blazers next season. They also agreed to terms with FA Mario Hezonja who also plays the 3.

With the addition of Whiteside, they now have protection for Jurcik’s injury and when he comes back, an abundance of quality Centers (5’s) in Whiteside/Jurcik/Zach Collins.

Kevin Love would be the perfect piece for this Blazer’s team at the 4. With the recent additions, he would not be required to play in the post nor defend there. He would play his most effective and natural stretch 4 position and be the perfect compliment in Portland’s front court to the players I just mentioned manning the 5..... with young Skai Labbiesere backing Love up at the 4.

Obviously you are titled to your opinion, but I couldn’t disagree more when comparing which player would be more valuable to this existing Blazers squad between Bazemore and Love.

The only way possible for someone to argue Kent Bazemore being even close to a more valuable piece with the Blazers lineup would be if your gonna assume Bazemore starts at SF (3), which is not a sure fire thing with Hood re upping.

Bazemore is only 6’5. Granted he has a 7’0 wingspan, but he’s always been considered more of a SG than a SF. At the 3, a spot he can no doubt play and guard in spurts, Bazemore stands to be muscled around and abused physically by the stronger more physically developed players who have true small forward size.

Bazemore was brought on via trade for 3 main reasons. To bring on better shooting then the abysmal Evan Turner did, to keep a trade chip in tow with his almost 20 million expiring deal contract, and as an insurance policy in case Rodney Hood bolted via free agency.

Hood didn’t bolt, he stayed on, and at 6’7 has better and more prototypical size to man the 3 for the Blazers, and in particular the Blazers. With Lillard and McCollum pairing at the 1 and 2 amd being undersized collectively, having an ideal sized 3 is much more important as a fit with Portland than other places because of this.

But even as the starting SF, Bazemore still doesn’t bring the shooting acumen to this team Kevin Love does. Bazemore shot .402 from the field last year, and just 32% from 3 last season for the Hawks. In Love’s last full season spanning 58 games in ‘17, he shot .458% from the field, and a blistering .415% from 3.

So when comparing but in terms of value to the Blazers, inserting Rodney Hood as the starting SF makes sense both from a player and size standpoint, as well as a trade off without dropping off with Bazemore.

Adding Kevin Love automatically inserts him as the starting 4 the instant he’s acquired, with no one replaceable at the 4 to Love as Hood is to Bazemore at the 3.

So how can you argue a backup SG in Bazemore, who shoots a lower percentage than the 6’10 Love does at a starting front court position (4) brings more value to the Blazers!??

Makes zero sense.

Love not only brings a sure fire starter as the perfect front court component, he brings elite shooting from the position as well.

He’s an All Star who is not only accustomed to playing 3rd wheel with 2 other superstars, he would also be coming home to Portland.... all reasons adding up to it making just a ton of sense.

Since the Blazers did also just sign SF Mario Hezonga to a deal who plays SF and would backup the recently signed Hood.....the Blazers don’t have immediate room or need for the rookie Little.

The Blazers would need to send at least approximately 23,154,264 million back to Cle in salary to accommodate the 125% or 1.25 rate factor necessary when matching up $ with Kevin Love’s $28,942,830 ‘19-20 salary.

Bazemore stands to make $19,269,662 this upcoming season, Nassir Littles cap hold is 2.1 million, which combined at $21,369,662, still leaves the Blazers $1,788,602 short of where they need to be.

So if the Cavs asked for Gary Trent Jr ( $1,446,697) in return along with the other two, the two sides would still be $338,901 apart from what would be needed...brutally close but short.

I think the ideal starting point along with Bazemore and Little would be Collins, who will make $4,240,200. These 3 combined work monetarily.

If I’m the Cavs, I’m demanding one of these two proposals for Love, and both work.

Love for Bazemore/Little/Simons

Or

Love for Bazemore/Little/Collins

Portland’s starting 5 would vault them right up to the top of Western Comference contention.
 
With Whiteside now on board with Jurcik when he comes back, does this make Collins expendable?

If I’m the Cavs, I ask for Collins, 1 of their young SG’s in either Simons or Trent Jr, Nassir Little (centerpiece) and Kent Bazemore’s expiring as the main salary filler.

Using the 125% factor for trade $, a deal of Love for Bazemore/Little/Trent Jr falls a mere 400K short of salary needing sent over by the Blazers.

Bazemore/Little/Simons would work. Again I’m asking for Collins as well, but the last 3 I just mentioned would work with Little being the centerpiece in the deal. Bazemore’s 19+ million contract would be the main salary filler, but his contract is an expiring, which would also act as an attractive piece come trade deadline.

For the Blazers, acquiring Love could put their roster over the top.

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: CJ McCollum
SF: Rodney Hood
PF: Kevin Love
C: Hassan Whiteside/JusefJurcik

I doubt whiteside is in their future plans.
 
Trading Bazemore, Little and Collins for Love immediately puts them at the top. Once Nurkic is back healthy then look out.

Nurkic
Love
CJ
Dame
 

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