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Derek said:
Dan Gilbert as Indians owner would be disastrous
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I don’t want to kick a man while he’s recovering from a stroke, but you’re absolutely right. Antonetti and Chernoff wouldn’t put up with his antics for five seconds.
 
We did get C Beau Taylor as an NRI so essentially right now he should be the catcher with Haase at AAA while Chu and Ice are likely the AA catchers at the current moment.
 
BimboColesHair said:
Not to freak anyone out or heighten expectations too much, because it’s still in its infancy and is only vaguely out there, which tells me it’s in its very early stages.

The Dolan’s are kicking around a potential sale of the team. Sherman leaving has lit some conversations.
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Can he give it to Lindor in exchange for never leaving?
 
sportscoach said:
I am not super worried if the Dolans sell the team, it’s just the question mark on who is going to take the organization over. I would say from top to bottom the organization itself is looking really good. My fear would be a new owner would want to change things their own way. Sincerely I feel if we could get someone who could afford to resign Lindor and extend Bieber, Clev etc but keep the rest of the system in place, Aka someone who can spend a bit more but keep the FO and their system in place then all would be well
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This is flawed. Name one person willing to lose tens of millions of dollars a year just because? Literally, that would be the owner the Indians would need. Someone willing to lose $30 plus million a year just to sign Lindor long term.

The team's issue is not ownership, its revenue.
 
Obscured By Clouds said:
This is flawed. Name one person willing to lose tens of millions of dollars a year just because? Literally, that would be the owner the Indians would need. Someone willing to lose $30 plus million a year just to sign Lindor long term.

The team's issue is not ownership, its revenue.
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100% correct.

Casual fans claim that Forbes valuation or TV contracts represent a broader point about being able to spend more, its simply false to assume that.

That's just not how a business works.
 
AZ_ said:
100% correct.

Casual fans claim that Forbes valuation or TV contracts represent a broader point about being able to spend more, its simply false to assume that.

That's just not how a business works.
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Like how every Mets fans is throwing a parade for Steve Cohen becoming majority owner.

Maybe he's a bit of an exception because of his outrageous wealth, but these owners are savvy business people. They aren't going to recklessly spend money to the point that they are losing money on the year, especially if the the team isn't winning.
 
Obscured By Clouds said:
This is flawed. Name one person willing to lose tens of millions of dollars a year just because? Literally, that would be the owner the Indians would need. Someone willing to lose $30 plus million a year just to sign Lindor long term.

The team's issue is not ownership, its revenue.
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To be honest I understand what you are saying but it feels like if Cleveland stayed in the 150 range they would normally be a contender in the AL, but logic says the 100-120 range at max is going to be their regular number. Now I think the team could operate at 150 and still at least break even but most people aren’t willing to run a business at the break even mark so they wouldn’t be losing millions.

Getting a new TV wouldn’t be hard, they are a very well rated TV core (so may as well keep the same crew in place in a sense) so they can get some extra income that way. It’s the fact they are in a colder area when it comes to baseball (less ticket sales early season) plus even having a good team for awhile the ticket sales aren’t going so well. They somehow have to figure out how to get up ticket sales without losing profit. I feel honestly if they can get sell outs on most nights plus a new tv deal they could make that difference needed to keep together a pretty good team for awhile.
 
sportscoach said:
To be honest I understand what you are saying but it feels like if Cleveland stayed in the 150 range they would normally be a contender in the AL, but logic says the 100-120 range at max is going to be their regular number. Now I think the team could operate at 150 and still at least break even but most people aren’t willing to run a business at the break even mark so they wouldn’t be losing millions.

Getting a new TV wouldn’t be hard, they are a very well rated TV core (so may as well keep the same crew in place in a sense) so they can get some extra income that way. It’s the fact they are in a colder area when it comes to baseball (less ticket sales early season) plus even having a good team for awhile the ticket sales aren’t going so well. They somehow have to figure out how to get up ticket sales without losing profit. I feel honestly if they can get sell outs on most nights plus a new tv deal they could make that difference needed to keep together a pretty good team for awhile.
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These are just worthless, arbitrary numbers.
 
Speaking of which, looks like they just re-signed Strasburg. Interested to see the number

Edit- $220m over 7

Edit2- $245m
 
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Although there's zero chance of it happening, the one way that the Tribe might be able to keep Lindor is to sign him to an extension where an enormous amount is deferred. Especially since there have been rumblings about the Dolans looking to sell, this arrangement would allow the Dolans to avoid paying the lion's share of his contract. Again, wishful thinking, but probably the only conceivable path to keeping Frankie here long-term.
 
AZ_ said:
These are just worthless, arbitrary numbers.
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maybe, maybe not. If we have a budget of 150 rather than 100-120 mil we could afford to spend a bit more as long as we use the same strategy we should mostly stay contenders for awhile. I mean we keep a solid core plus the 2022/23 current projected A Ball crew and it’s a good probability we stay contenders for awhile. That extra 30 mil either could keep a Lindor or could resign a couple good players we have had to trade in past scenarios. I mean it is the console games, but I never once didn’t get into the playoffs with that 150 mil range salary cap. But then again I also traded guys as they got older for younger prospects so that part of the game you couldn’t do in real life
 
sportscoach said:
maybe, maybe not. If we have a budget of 150 rather than 100-120 mil we could afford to spend a bit more as long as we use the same strategy we should mostly stay contenders for awhile. I mean we keep a solid core plus the 2022/23 current projected A Ball crew and it’s a good probability we stay contenders for awhile. That extra 30 mil either could keep a Lindor or could resign a couple good players we have had to trade in past scenarios. I mean it is the console games, but I never once didn’t get into the playoffs with that 150 mil range salary cap. But then again I also traded guys as they got older for younger prospects so that part of the game you couldn’t do in real life
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No, they're definitely arbitrary.
 
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