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R.I.P Kobe Bryant

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MGMT said:
This was absolutely horrific. I have no interest in discussing my personal opinion of his personality or his demeanor as a basketball player. Three kids lost their father and sister today; a wife/mother lost her husband and daughter — all in absolutely devastating fashion. It hurt to learn if this.

Not trying to sound like an elitist or anything but parenthood has made me start to react to things differently. Condolences to all lost on board :/
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no doubt that parenthood gives this a different tenor for me every time I hear something like this. Kobe was an absolute icon and it’s sad to imagine the fear that must have washed over everybody on board that helicopter. Really just want to wake up tomorrow and find out this was some sort of terrible dream.
 
I don’t think you need to be a parent to recognize the tragedy for all involved... but anyways super sad day.
 
death is a scary thing. It can be so sudden and surprise you that you end up realizing things and the importance of people.

Regardless of your opinions, you cant deny the impact this man had on basketball, sports, and even the world. He was beloved. You cant shoot trash into a can without saying his name. And until today, you didnt even realize how much of an impact he had. Life is precious, and its not until its gone do you realize how good you had it all along.

my prayers and thoughts are with his family. Such a tragedy to lose both him and his daughter. Terrible terrible news.


anyone else believe magic out lived kobe? What a cruel world.
 
MGMT said:
This was absolutely horrific. I have no interest in discussing my personal opinion of his personality or his demeanor as a basketball player. Three kids lost their father and sister today; a wife/mother lost her husband and daughter — all in absolutely devastating fashion. It hurt to learn if this.

Not trying to sound like an elitist or anything but parenthood has made me start to react to things differently. Condolences to all lost on board :/
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New father here; imagining being in that scenario knowing you will die is terrifying. Being in that scenario, while your child looks at you; knowing they too will die.....is one of the most heart breaking things I can think of. I admit, I shed a few tears today. I was pretty upset about Kobe's death. I mean, ya we hated the guy, but he put on a show every game and was someone we grew up watching.

Once I heard his children might be involved, I was F5ing like a mad man and actually praying it wasnt true (I pray for nothing).

Once I heard Gigi was involved I cried.
 
This is going to be interesting over the next few days in seeing teams and the league respond (or not respond).

Kobe was a complex man. 2003 was a long time ago but Colorado is still a part of his history. How far does the NBA go to honor him? Which teams (if any) follow the Mavericks?
 
A friend posted this on facebook...sums it up pretty well imo:


"I think Kobe Bryant meant a lot to many of us Black folks, for complicated reasons.

I also believe he got away with sexual assault.

I also think he was a great dad.

I also think he was one of the greatest players to play the game.

I also think his promotion of Women's Basketball and the WNBA was admirable and forward-thinking.

I also loved his aerial artistry.

I also know that sexual assault survivors will be triggered and traumatized by this public lionization.

I also know that even though I resented his seeming selfishness and political apathy in his early years, he grew into a type of maturity in his personal life and in his philanthropic endeavors that surprised me in a positive way. As he grew older, he grew bolder in his political visibility in ways that I appreciated (seeing him rock the "I can't breathe" T-Shirt to commemorate Eric Garner's assassination by the police heartened me).

I also don't think that this erases the deep trauma he caused.

I also believe in healing, growth and redemption.

I also cried when I heard he died, because feelings are not political agendas and many of these celebrities are intertwined in our memories in ways that bypass our frontal cortex (I'm looking at you Michael Jackson). I remember "where i was when Kobe, the athlete did [insert great athletic achievement]."

I also know that the ability to compartmentalize is a luxury of the privileged, and as someone who has not been sexually abused I have privilege.

I also know that his child died with him and that she deserved a longer life.

I also mourn for his family.

I also hold his survivor and other sexual assault survivors in the Light tonight.

I also know that the Basketball fan in me will miss him.

This is hard to process.

Please be gentle, as best you can.

And if this reflection hurts or offends, I also believe that as an imperfect human being (like all of us), I will hurt and harm people I love.

Because such is life.

And life is very, very short."
 
Nathan S said:
A friend posted this on facebook...sums it up pretty well imo:


"I think Kobe Bryant meant a lot to many of us Black folks, for complicated reasons.

I also believe he got away with sexual assault.

I also think he was a great dad.

I also think he was one of the greatest players to play the game.

I also think his promotion of Women's Basketball and the WNBA was admirable and forward-thinking.

I also loved his aerial artistry.

I also know that sexual assault survivors will be triggered and traumatized by this public lionization.

I also know that even though I resented his seeming selfishness and political apathy in his early years, he grew into a type of maturity in his personal life and in his philanthropic endeavors that surprised me in a positive way. As he grew older, he grew bolder in his political visibility in ways that I appreciated (seeing him rock the "I can't breathe" T-Shirt to commemorate Eric Garner's assassination by the police heartened me).

I also don't think that this erases the deep trauma he caused.

I also believe in healing, growth and redemption.

I also cried when I heard he died, because feelings are not political agendas and many of these celebrities are intertwined in our memories in ways that bypass our frontal cortex (I'm looking at you Michael Jackson). I remember "where i was when Kobe, the athlete did [insert great athletic achievement]."

I also know that the ability to compartmentalize is a luxury of the privileged, and as someone who has not been sexually abused I have privilege.

I also know that his child died with him and that she deserved a longer life.

I also mourn for his family.

I also hold his survivor and other sexual assault survivors in the Light tonight.

I also know that the Basketball fan in me will miss him.

This is hard to process.

Please be gentle, as best you can.

And if this reflection hurts or offends, I also believe that as an imperfect human being (like all of us), I will hurt and harm people I love.

Because such is life.

And life is very, very short."
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I didn't want to be the one to bring it up and I haven't really been able to contemplate it or articulate it properly.

I don't mean to downplay that thing that happened, it's obviously wildly wrong. I'm more saddened by the tragedy in my gut than I am focused on what happened. I feel like it needs to be considered and I'm not sure how.
 
I’ve spent Kobe’s entire career rooting against him. Yet I’m stunned by how hard his death has hit me. Like I feel depressed by it.

Maybe it’s because I’ve followed his entire career from 17 year old hotshot to three-peat with Shaq to disgraced public figure to selfish ballhog to champion without shaq to straight up OG his last several years in the league. Maybe it’s because I always respected that in a league where guys sit out for the most minor shit, this guy suited up and played hard no matter how banged up he was. Maybe it’s because in all the years rooting against him, he seemingly always found a way to come out on top, which makes it that much more shocking that he wasn’t able to this time.
 
Nathan S said:
A friend posted this on facebook...sums it up pretty well imo:


"I think Kobe Bryant meant a lot to many of us Black folks, for complicated reasons.

I also believe he got away with sexual assault.

I also think he was a great dad.

I also think he was one of the greatest players to play the game.

I also think his promotion of Women's Basketball and the WNBA was admirable and forward-thinking.

I also loved his aerial artistry.

I also know that sexual assault survivors will be triggered and traumatized by this public lionization.

I also know that even though I resented his seeming selfishness and political apathy in his early years, he grew into a type of maturity in his personal life and in his philanthropic endeavors that surprised me in a positive way. As he grew older, he grew bolder in his political visibility in ways that I appreciated (seeing him rock the "I can't breathe" T-Shirt to commemorate Eric Garner's assassination by the police heartened me).

I also don't think that this erases the deep trauma he caused.

I also believe in healing, growth and redemption.

I also cried when I heard he died, because feelings are not political agendas and many of these celebrities are intertwined in our memories in ways that bypass our frontal cortex (I'm looking at you Michael Jackson). I remember "where i was when Kobe, the athlete did [insert great athletic achievement]."

I also know that the ability to compartmentalize is a luxury of the privileged, and as someone who has not been sexually abused I have privilege.

I also know that his child died with him and that she deserved a longer life.

I also mourn for his family.

I also hold his survivor and other sexual assault survivors in the Light tonight.

I also know that the Basketball fan in me will miss him.

This is hard to process.

Please be gentle, as best you can.

And if this reflection hurts or offends, I also believe that as an imperfect human being (like all of us), I will hurt and harm people I love.

Because such is life.

And life is very, very short."
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Yeah... But... Alsooooooooo?!!??!!?
 
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