Derek
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Wouldn’t shock me to see him join a team in 2021 as an NRI in spring trainingIt will have to be a pretty low $ “1”
Wouldn’t shock me to see him join a team in 2021 as an NRI in spring trainingIt will have to be a pretty low $ “1”
If he doesn't come back and put up some quality innings, he could likely be reduced to that.Wouldn’t shock me to see him join a team in 2021 as an NRI in spring training
Or, if one was to think about this a bit more broadly (intelligently), statistics help players and coaches calibrate their instincts and intuition.
While the purpose of your shtick here was likely just to present a false choice, where we must choose one or the other, that is obviously nonsensical and bordering on the more "trollish" side of discussion.
For the others who likely already understood how the blending of statistics with natural abilities work, hopefully it can serve as a reminder. People can enjoy the NFL for a linebacker learning how to fill gaps and read the offensive line to make a play, they don't denigrate him for studying the tendencies of the other team which helps him fine tune that action.
Literally nobody is asking you to dive into SQL and pull out data that you don't understand, I hope you can at least try to respect others interest in it. It has absolutely zero effect on your ability to take in a game and measure intuition or instinct, or guts, or (insert intangible quality that still exists).
Kluber has been diagnosed with a grade 2 strain of the Teres Major.. he'll be shut down for four weeks then re-evaluated.. Clevinger had the same thing.. I don't recall the degree of the strain.. So, it's good news that Kluber doesn't have a major / career threatening capsule issue with his shoulder. There is a pretty good chance that the Rangers.. will stand behind Kluber through the 2020 season. The 2021 season and Kluber's option could be denied by the Rangers.. making Kluber a FA..
Thoughts?
It's the Hall of Fame.. not the Hall of pretty darn good players.. He'll get some consideration.. but, only some.. and certainly not enough to be enshrined..Best guess, does Kluber make the HOF? Right now even with 2 Cy Youngs he is not in imo. Less than 100 victories....needs to be at least over 150 to get in...34, pitches till 30 needs 8 or 9 a year to make it.....with his arm issues he might not get there. I compared him to Kofax who had 3 cy young's and a more dominate peak with 160 wins to get in.
Good as any section to discuss...I think its an interesting discussion.
Hard to believe they pick up that option at around 18m...not really pitching well as a starter in 2 years.Kluber has been diagnosed with a grade 2 strain of the Teres Major.. he'll be shut down for four weeks then re-evaluated.. Clevinger had the same thing.. I don't recall the degree of the strain.. So, it's good news that Kluber doesn't have a major / career threatening capsule issue with his shoulder. There is a pretty good chance that the Rangers.. will stand behind Kluber through the 2020 season. The 2021 season and Kluber's option could be denied by the Rangers.. making Kluber a FA..
Thoughts?
Best guess, does Kluber make the HOF? Right now even with 2 Cy Youngs he is not in imo. Less than 100 victories....needs to be at least over 150 to get in...34, pitches till 30 needs 8 or 9 a year to make it.....with his arm issues he might not get there. I compared him to Kofax who had 3 cy young's and a more dominate peak with 160 wins to get in.
Good as any section to discuss...I think its an interesting discussion.
I actually think Cliff Lee is closer to HOF stats than Kluber.
Cy Young
4x All-Star
ERA Title
65
34
31
34
36
33
33
SUMMARY
Career
WAR
43.2
W
143
L
91
ERA
3.52
Kluber
Career
WAR
-
32.2
W
0
98
L
0
58
ERA
0.00
3.16
G
1
209
GS
1
204
SV
0
0
IP
1.0
1342.2
SO
1
1462
WHIP
1.000
1.086
Honestly, my thoughts are i'm really glad we moved him when we did. I'm glad we got his best years. An all time great for the Tribe . . .Kluber has been diagnosed with a grade 2 strain of the Teres Major.. he'll be shut down for four weeks then re-evaluated.. Clevinger had the same thing.. I don't recall the degree of the strain.. So, it's good news that Kluber doesn't have a major / career threatening capsule issue with his shoulder. There is a pretty good chance that the Rangers.. will stand behind Kluber through the 2020 season. The 2021 season and Kluber's option could be denied by the Rangers.. making Kluber a FA..
Thoughts?
Best guess, does Kluber make the HOF? Right now even with 2 Cy Youngs he is not in imo. Less than 100 victories....needs to be at least over 150 to get in...34, pitches till 30 needs 8 or 9 a year to make it.....with his arm issues he might not get there. I compared him to Kofax who had 3 cy young's and a more dominate peak with 160 wins to get in.
Good as any section to discuss...I think its an interesting discussion.
Best guess, does Kluber make the HOF? Right now even with 2 Cy Youngs he is not in imo. Less than 100 victories....needs to be at least over 150 to get in...34, pitches till 30 needs 8 or 9 a year to make it.....with his arm issues he might not get there. I compared him to Kofax who had 3 cy young's and a more dominate peak with 160 wins to get in.
Good as any section to discuss...I think its an interesting discussion.