2020 Around the MLB Thread

[DCTribefan]

Your post is a bit hard to read. But those numbers are interesting.

Sorry. Copy and paste removed all formatting.

 

[xmasbuck]

Best guess, does Kluber make the HOF? Right now even with 2 Cy Youngs he is not in imo. Less than 100 victories....needs to be at least over 150 to get in...34, pitches till 30 needs 8 or 9 a year to make it.....with his arm issues he might not get there. I compared him to Kofax who had 3 cy young's and a more dominate peak with 160 wins to get in.

Good as any section to discuss...I think its an interesting discussion.

Corey's the Don Mattingly of pitchers

 

[Cavsfan1985]

Corey's the Don Mattingly of pitchers

It just shows how hard it is to get into the HOF for baseball. In most other sports, his dominance over that 5-6 year stretch gets him into a lot of HOF in other sports.

If you look at that stretch:
CY Young - 2014
Finished number 3 in CY Young Race - 2016
CY Young - 2017
Finished number 3 in CY Young Race - 2018

 

[Urban]

It just shows how hard it is to get into the HOF for baseball. In most other sports, his dominance over that 5-6 year stretch gets him into a lot of HOF in other sports.

If you look at that stretch:
CY Young - 2014
Finished number 3 in CY Young Race - 2016
CY Young - 2017
Finished number 3 in CY Young Race - 2018

Good case in point is Terrell Davis. 3 great seasons and 1 very good season and he is in the Pro Football HOF. Granted, it took him 11 years to get in..

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

Good case in point is Terrell Davis. 3 great seasons and 1 very good season and he is in the Pro Football HOF. Granted, it took him 11 years to get in..

Forgot one key number: out of 7 years.

 

[Juice is Loose]

And the hits just keep coming...

 

[bob2the2nd]

Forgot one key number: out of 7 years.

so he had poor longevity. Shouldnt that count against him, not for him?

 

[bob2the2nd]

And the hits just keep coming...

any word about the phillies yet?

 

[Ohio]

I honestly forgot Kluber was so old before starting with the Tribe. Very late bloomer.

I agree, too short of a career for the Hall, unfortunately.

 

[LL3]

And the hits just keep coming...

So, not shocking...Phils results will be somewhat telling.

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

so he had poor longevity. Shouldnt that count against him, not for him?

It's about the difference in career lengths between the NFL and MLB

 

[bob2the2nd]

It's about the difference in career lengths between the NFL and MLB

but 7 years for an NFL running back in the early 2000's wasnt anything spectacular, in fact it puts him last in the longevity list by a ton for RBs from the same era

Experience of All other HOF RBs that played in the year 2000
Faulk-12 years
Bettis-13 years
Martin 11 years
Smith 15 years
Thomas-13 years
Tomlison- 12 years


Davis 7 years

Now that said the argument should probably be made that Davis shouldnt be in the hall of fame for football, and thus is a bad comparision to Kluber being in the HOF for baseball. But has already been established getting into the HOF for baseball is just SO much more difficult than getting in for pretty much every other sport.

 

[Obscured By Clouds]

but 7 years for an NFL running back in the early 2000's wasnt anything spectacular, in fact it puts him last in the longevity list by a ton for RBs from the same era

Experience of All other HOF RBs that played in the year 2000
Faulk-12 years
Bettis-13 years
Martin 11 years
Smith 15 years
Thomas-13 years
Tomlison- 12 years


Davis 7 years

Now that said the argument should probably be made that Davis shouldnt be in the hall of fame for football, and thus is a bad comparision to Kluber being in the HOF for baseball. But has already been established getting into the HOF for baseball is just SO much more difficult than getting in for pretty much every other sport.

Yeah, and like someone else already pointed out, it took him over a decade to get voted in. I'm not advocating he should be in or not, either. I'm just responding to the numbers posted.

NFL typical career length is 3.3 years, NBA is 4.5, and MLB is is 5.6. That is a significant difference.

 

[Cavsfan1985]

I honestly forgot Kluber was so old before starting with the Tribe. Very late bloomer.

I agree, too short of a career for the Hall, unfortunately.

I agree. I think the only way he has a chance is if he is able to come back next year, and is able to return to form and have 1/2 great years and 1/2 above average years to finish his career. The one thing he has going for him is his game has always been control and ball movement which I think would age well, and he has not thrown a lot the last 2 years. But I think his upside is at best a number 2/3 for the next few years. I personally hope the Tribe would look to try and being him back on a prove it deal next year. Would be nice to see him try and finish his a career here.

 

[LL3]

It is up to the league, but I cannot imagine they will force other teams to go to Miami in these circumstances. I still wonder if there is a plan to simply shut down (for weeks, or perhaps the season) certain teams if the infections are too prolific.