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Diva. Wants out.
Diva. Wants out.
And what other tribe do you speak of?The funny thing about “dog whistles” is it’s suppose to be coded language for your tribe. However, it always seems like only the opposing tribe hears these “dog whistles.”
This clearly ends up political sooner than later.And what other tribe do you speak of?
Don't apologize when people say you're racist because they want to frame your argument that wayThis clearly ends up political sooner than later.
I suggest we just move on from this discussion, and I apologize for any perpetuating I may have contributed to.
Instead of defensiveness, perhaps we could all gain a better understanding of what Odell is supposed to be apologizing and humbling himself for?
Because it’s still largely unclear, aside from the stereotypical “diva” garbage that gets reported by writers who are covering two of the worst franchises in sports at the time of his “offenses.”
Are we supposed to still be mad at him for “outbursts” on teams that have the infrastructure and culture of a Dog Whistle Reddit thread?
Alright I’ll continue to explain where I’m at. I’m a fan of the Cleveland Cavaliers. A team that employed LeBron James, the GOAT, who constantly used the word “humbled” with a positive connotation. This is how I was using the term.
All athletes have egos and confidence. They wouldn’t get where they are without it. Nothing wrong with this.
My comment that I wanted Odell to be “humbled” by the situation was rooted in this context: the Browns had an amazing season even without him. Upon his return, I truly hope his mission is to find a way to contribute to that success, not re-establish his stardom in this league at the expense of the team’s success.
So yeah, that’s it. I want the Browns’ success to inspire Odell to fit back into the group accordingly and not think he needs to be Superman. I think that’s fair.
I think my favorite athlete of all time did a good job of expressing it a few years ago.
Alright I’ll continue to explain where I’m at. I’m a fan of the Cleveland Cavaliers. A team that employed LeBron James, the GOAT, who constantly used the word “humbled” with a positive connotation. This is how I was using the term.
All athletes have egos and confidence. They wouldn’t get where they are without it. Nothing wrong with this.
My comment that I wanted Odell to be “humbled” by the situation was rooted in this context: the Browns had an amazing season even without him. Upon his return, I truly hope his mission is to find a way to contribute to that success, not re-establish his stardom in this league at the expense of the team’s success.
So yeah, that’s it. I want the Browns’ success to inspire Odell to fit back into the group accordingly and not think he needs to be Superman. I think that’s fair.
I think my favorite athlete of all time did a good job of expressing it a few years ago.
I think Odell legit wants to win. His stardom has already reached it’s apex. I truly do not believe he’s just gonna get bigger and bigger star wise.
However what I believe he realized is he knows his capabilities and he saw what he saw with the Browns. There’s no way this dude is not believing he is on a legit Super Bowl contender and can be legendary on the biggest stage. I really don’t believe he wants to go anywhere and he’s busting his ass to be a missing piece to a super bowl champion. And if they posses a healthy roster— the Browns are going to win a super bowl in the near future and OBJ knows it...
I completely agree that the "legend" is greater than reality. He's more famous than he is good. He's also no longer the player he was the first couple years in New York. He's never been the same after that catastrophic ankle injury.I think the more time goes by without odell the more people revert back to the legend of odell rather than the player odell
Everyone always dances around it because they don’t want to have a hot take, but I really don’t care. The problem with Odell is he hasn’t played like a top 30 receiver.
It’s not Baker’s fault. It’s not coach’s fault. It’s not a coincidence how much better our offense was as soon as he went out.
He’s just not a very good receiver at this point. I honestly didn’t watch much of the Giants. I relied on this board for analysis on him. Then I watched every single game he played on the Browns and he is pretty clearly worse than Landry who himself is probably fringe top 20-25 WR
I know no one wants to say it, but the problem is OBJ just isn’t what he apparently once was. He had plenty of drops, plenty of times where he didn’t make plays that top WRs routinely make. Excuses get made over and over for one reason or another, but I’m confident Beckham will be just as bad next year. I really hope I’m wrong for obvious reasons, but the reluctance to just call his poor performance out and blame it on everything else is frustrating to me
The legend of odell Beckham is FAR greater than the player Odel Beckham
I completely agree that the "legend" is greater than reality. He's more famous than he is good. He's also no longer the player he was the first couple years in New York. He's never been the same after that catastrophic ankle injury.
I think placing him outside the top 30 WR's is a bit much. I still had him as a top-10 receiver in the AFC (not gonna go through the entire NFL, but I imagine that places him somewhere around the top 20-25 in the league).
I hope he comes back, and just adds another spice to the meal that is our offense that we've been missing. But, if for some reason he ruins the dish, he has no guaranteed money from us outside of this coming season, so it's not hard to move on from him.