Minor League Week 14 Games Thread

Gson said:

Logan Shane Allen or Alex Young to be DFA'd to make space on the 40 man?

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No need. 40 man roster only has 38 on it currently..

Gson said:

Logan Shane Allen or Alex Young to be DFA'd to make space on the 40 man?

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We created 3, 40 man spots at the trade deadline... One was filled by Ramos, so we have two left... Adding Perez, will put it down to one, but we don't need any until Bieber or Civale is healthy so if Bradley ends up going to the IL, you could see a temporary guy (like a Brooks) get the call up over Chang (but my guess is Chang would get Bradley's ABs)...

98MPH with a nice curve. Man Morris is big time. So under the radar. Give him another trip through in Columbus, then have him take Mejia's spot in Cleveland unless he fails in the next start.

This is what the remainder of 2021 is for. Let's see what we have.

Also, don't look now but Morris's strong outing yesterday was followed by Logan Allen Senior with his best outing in a long while. He's still young, lefty, and worth another big league starting look IMO.

Would love to see someone rank

Eli Morgan
JC Mejia
Logan Allen Senior
Cody Morris
Scott Moss
Pilkington
Peyton from Tampa Bay
Adam Scott

These are our depth starters who will tide us over until that next wave of elite starters like ESPINO, Burns, Gavin Williams, Hankins, Vargas, and Logan Allen Junior are ready.

In re Pilkington and Battenfield:

The Indians have a superb record at acquiring and developing lesser known pitching prospects into MLB assets.

However, its not 100%.

Jefry Rodriguez
Jon Edwards
Anthony Gose

Recent acquisitions with some hype that busted.

Both of the two new additions look good, and appear to have garnered a lot of recent optimistic reports, moving up in nearly everybodys evaluations. Glad to have them both, but hardly 'counting' on either to make an impact.

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With Perez being added to the 40 man now, it will be interesting to see who gets cut later, when space is needed, but it adds to the Rule Five equation.

In spite of all the denials, the Rule Five crunch is real. While we opened some spots in recent trades, neither Pilkington nor Perez were on most anybodys list two weeks ago. Now they join a slew of better known prospects that have to be added or lost. If you look at the trades and consider Pilkington and Perez...plus Straw... as needed additions, we are almost back to square one.

DickyLeftridge said:

98MPH with a nice curve. Man Morris is big time. So under the radar. Give him another trip through in Columbus, then have him take Mejia's spot in Cleveland unless he fails in the next start.

This is what the remainder of 2021 is for. Let's see what we have.

Also, don't look now but Morris's strong outing yesterday was followed by Logan Allen Senior with his best outing in a long while. He's still young, lefty, and worth another big league starting look IMO.

Would love to see someone rank

Eli Morgan
JC Mejia
Logan Allen Senior
Cody Morris
Scott Moss
Pilkington
Peyton from Tampa Bay
Adam Scott

These are our depth starters who will tide us over until that next wave of elite starters like ESPINO, Burns, Gavin Williams, Hankins, Vargas, and Logan Allen Junior are ready.

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How would you want them ranked? Cause that list could have a million configurations since the floor, potential and everything like that is different for each of those guys...

sportscoach said:

How would you want them ranked? Cause that list could have a million configurations since the floor, potential and everything like that is different for each of those guys...

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I'd take any ranking of them anyone wants to offer. We're a bunch of fans talking about minor league prospects on a message board. Speculation and different opinions in how to value the millions of variables you mention are understood. Nothing wrong with it either. This isn't being submitted for publication in peer-reviewed journals.

DickyLeftridge said:

98MPH with a nice curve. Man Morris is big time. So under the radar. Give him another trip through in Columbus, then have him take Mejia's spot in Cleveland unless he fails in the next start.

This is what the remainder of 2021 is for. Let's see what we have.

Also, don't look now but Morris's strong outing yesterday was followed by Logan Allen Senior with his best outing in a long while. He's still young, lefty, and worth another big league starting look IMO.

Would love to see someone rank

Eli Morgan
JC Mejia
Logan Allen Senior
Cody Morris
Scott Moss
Pilkington
Peyton from Tampa Bay
Adam Scott

These are our depth starters who will tide us over until that next wave of elite starters like ESPINO, Burns, Gavin Williams, Hankins, Vargas, and Logan Allen Junior are ready.

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My ranking based on no facts. Only one I really feel comfortable with is Morris at the top. I have zero faith in any of the last 3 lefties making anymore MLB starts for Cleveland.

Cody Morris
Peyton Battenfield
Eli Morgan
Pilkington
JC Mejia
Logan Allen Senior
Adam Scott
Scott Moss

mopete12 said:

My ranking based on no facts. Only one I really feel comfortable with is Morris at the top. I have zero faith in any of the last 3 lefties making anymore MLB starts for Cleveland.

Cody Morris
Peyton Battenfield
Eli Morgan
Pilkington
JC Mejia
Logan Allen Senior
Adam Scott
Scott Moss

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That's interesting. Thanks. That high on Morris eh? That's exciting. Battenfield, I keep forgetting his name, is very exciting in his own rite. His numbers are ridiculous. Though Morris this year has something like 15 K/1 BB per 9. Why Morris high though? Sell us on him. I want to believe.

I'd move Logan Allen Senior up a bit. My rankings I guess.

Battenfield
Logan Allen Senior
Cody Morris
Eli Morgan
JC Mejia
Pilkington
Scott Moss
Adam Scott

CATS44 said:

In re Pilkington and Battenfield:

The Indians have a superb record at acquiring and developing lesser known pitching prospects into MLB assets.

However, its not 100%.

Jefry Rodriguez
Jon Edwards
Anthony Gose

Recent acquisitions with some hype that busted.

Both of the two new additions look good, and appear to have garnered a lot of recent optimistic reports, moving up in nearly everybodys evaluations. Glad to have them both, but hardly 'counting' on either to make an impact.

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With Perez being added to the 40 man now, it will be interesting to see who gets cut later, when space is needed, but it adds to the Rule Five equation.

In spite of all the denials, the Rule Five crunch is real. While we opened some spots in recent trades, neither Pilkington nor Perez were on most anybodys list two weeks ago. Now they join a slew of better known prospects that have to be added or lost. If you look at the trades and consider Pilkington and Perez...plus Straw... as needed additions, we are almost back to square one.

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Jon Edwards and Anthony Gose aren't exactly apt comparisons since the former was out of baseball for awhile selling real estate before giving the sport one more shot and ending up with the Tribe organization per Cody Allen's recommendation, while the latter is a 30 year old converted outfielder. Far different circumstances than those of Pilkington and Battenfield.

Kevalier said:

Jon Edwards and Anthony Gose aren't exactly apt comparisons since the former was out of baseball for awhile selling real estate before giving the sport one more shot and ending up with the Tribe organization per Cody Allen's recommendation, while the latter is a 30 year old converted outfielder. Far different circumstances than those of Pilkington and Battenfield.

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Correct, but how bout you do some rankings for us on the pitchers I listed?

DickyLeftridge said:

98MPH with a nice curve. Man Morris is big time. So under the radar. Give him another trip through in Columbus, then have him take Mejia's spot in Cleveland unless he fails in the next start.

This is what the remainder of 2021 is for. Let's see what we have.

Also, don't look now but Morris's strong outing yesterday was followed by Logan Allen Senior with his best outing in a long while. He's still young, lefty, and worth another big league starting look IMO.

Would love to see someone rank

Eli Morgan
JC Mejia
Logan Allen Senior
Cody Morris
Scott Moss
Pilkington
Peyton from Tampa Bay
Adam Scott

These are our depth starters who will tide us over until that next wave of elite starters like ESPINO, Burns, Gavin Williams, Hankins, Vargas, and Logan Allen Junior are ready.

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Let's see here... When it comes to potential, the list is this way...

Cody Morris
Meija
Battenfield
Logan Allen
Eli Morgan
Moss
Pilkington
Scott

When it comes to floor, the list is way different...

Eli Morgan
Battenfield
Allen
Meija
Morris
Scott
Moss
Pilkington

So in my mind, Battenfield is the one to keep the most eye on since I feel he has the chance to be the most successful of the bunch...

DickyLeftridge said:

Correct, but how bout you do some rankings for us on the pitchers I listed?

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Are you my boss?

Morris is in the MLB rotation right now if he's healthy to start the season.

Shame him and Cantillo got hurt. They were both turning a lot of the right heads until they both got hurt, and both were going to be moved aggressively with the backend question marks.

With what Quantrill is turning into as a starter, it cannot be stated enough how ridiculous the Clevinger return can potentially be for the team moving forward. Could be their sequel to the Bartolo trade if guys pan out the way they're hoping.

Kevalier said:

Jon Edwards and Anthony Gose aren't exactly apt comparisons since the former was out of baseball for awhile selling real estate before giving the sport one more shot and ending up with the Tribe organization per Cody Allen's recommendation, while the latter is a 30 year old converted outfielder. Far different circumstances than those of Pilkington and Battenfield.

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....and Jefry Rodriguez never had the pitch mix that Battenfield and Pilkington have. With Rodriguez, the hope was that he could develop a 3rd quality pitch, but that never occurred. He's not a good comparison IMO.

CDAV45 said:

....and Jefry Rodriguez never had the pitch mix that Battenfield and Pilkington have. With Rodriguez, the hope was that he could develop a 3rd quality pitch, but that never occurred. He's not a good comparison IMO.

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Not even just that.

Barely got to put their hands on Rodriguez because he was always hurt. Shoulder issues in 2019, then a back issue in 2020 that he was unable to rehab and heal while in the Dominican during the Covid shutdown, so he spent all of 2020 rehabbing his back instead of pitching in alt site games. Back did not respond well, could never get it healthy enough to pitch and return to form so they cut bait.

Lot of talent with Jefry, but health and lack of good healthcare during Covid cost him his spot here.