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Nope, wasn't as important as arguing over Odell hype videos I guess. Thanks for sharing! Was honestly curious if he was on his way back. Will need to add someone to the active roster at WR if OBJ isnt ready come Sunday.
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It’ll start off with the clip of Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino followed with me ominously jogging through and ultimately collapsing in a tomato garden like Don Vito. Cross-cut with an intense OBJ workout.Are you gonna post an OBJ get off my lawn video as a response?
Video ends with me dying and a tomato rolling out of my hand toward the camera that shoots into a new shot, OBJ catches one-handed then winks at the camera.
A shot of a cheetah inside of a pen licking its chops is shown.
Fade to black:
OBJ: HYPE VIDEO 2021
THIS TIME HE’S HEALTHY
WE MEAN IT
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I drafted him late in my FFL and have him stashed, just in the hopes he does...something.
Biggest thing I want OBJ back for is to see if Baker reverts into forcing him the ball like the start of last season. I don't know if that's coaching, WR demanding the ball, or Baker trying to make the WR happy; all I know is it sucked and he was better after OBJ went down.
Damn I hope Landry is alright, love everything about that guy.
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I'm kind of surprised to see Conklin top 5 on our team. I feel like I've seen him getting beat pretty regularly, or maybe it has only been a couple plays.
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I agree--he's certainly been the most glaring weakness in pass blocking on our offensive line, and he certainly hasn't been as critical in the run game as our two guards.
I'm still going with PFF numbers are shit.
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My understanding is that PFF tries to identify measurable things that they have correlated with winning and not winning football. Then they assemble the player grade based on the number of measurable things that a player does.
The problem is that just because a player is doing the things they like and not doing the things they don't like, it doesn't mean that this particular player is helping the team win football games, at least to the level that the PFF grades indicate with a sample size of one or two games. There could be a couple good measurables with a lot of bad un-measurables. The single game ratings should always be taken with a large dose of skepticism. Over the course of a season, they usually start to make a little more sense, but even then, the stuff is just correlated with wins, it doesn't mean that doing those things leads to 100% winning.
Generally pretty happy with Conklin though.
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Browns left tackle Jedrick Wills playfully mocks PFF’s offensive line grading
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I'm sure their agents are out there encouraging them to do things that lead to higher PFF grades.
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They also grade each play individually on like a -3 to +3 scale.My understanding is that PFF tries to identify measurable things that they have correlated with winning and not winning football. Then they assemble the player grade based on the number of measurable things that a player does.
The problem is that just because a player is doing the things they like and not doing the things they don't like, it doesn't mean that this particular player is helping the team win football games, at least to the level that the PFF grades indicate with a sample size of one or two games. There could be a couple good measurables with a lot of bad un-measurables. The single game ratings should always be taken with a large dose of skepticism. Over the course of a season, they usually start to make a little more sense, but even then, the stuff is just correlated with wins, it doesn't mean that doing those things leads to 100% winning.
Generally pretty happy with Conklin though.
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Browns left tackle Jedrick Wills playfully mocks PFF’s offensive line grading
I'm sure their agents are out there encouraging them to do things that lead to higher PFF grades.
I just don't think they're good at it--and even if they're decent at grading each play, compiling those individual scores into that single number out of 100 often looks like dogshit to me.
I am happy with Conklin. He's a very good RT.
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I should have done more research. You are right. The PFF grades are pretty subjective.
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Pro Football Focus - Wikipedia
Criticism
PFF has been criticized by the analytics community regarding the accuracy and veracity of its ratings. In contrast to the purely quantitative ratings released by sources like Football Outsiders, TeamRankings, and numberFire, PFF uses qualitative and opinion-based grading as the root of its 0-100 Player Grades -- not its advanced statistics. As such, the 0-100 Player Grades are not truly quantitative and could be seen as being prone to bias, poor sample sizing, or other issues.
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exactly. Q and I have been screaming this from the rooftops since PFF started to become such a big deal. Its an entirely subjective analysis by glorified fans. I am sure they have gotten "better" at their craft since they started but at the end of the day its basically just wanna-be scouts watching the game and coming up with numbers on how they think a player did. Its one thing if these guys have the 22 view, know all the plays being run, and know exactly what each player is supposed to do every play. But they dont. They basically just have whatever we as fans have.I should have done more research. You are right. The PFF grades are pretty subjective.
Pro Football Focus - Wikipedia
CriticismPFF has been criticized by the analytics community regarding the accuracy and veracity of its ratings. In contrast to the purely quantitative ratings released by sources like Football Outsiders, TeamRankings, and numberFire, PFF uses qualitative and opinion-based grading as the root of its 0-100 Player Grades -- not its advanced statistics. As such, the 0-100 Player Grades are not truly quantitative and could be seen as being prone to bias, poor sample sizing, or other issues.
I am not saying it cant be used, but it needs to be used with quantitative analysis to back it up.