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Isaac 3 & D Okoro - A Two Way Playing Basketball Savant

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Who is Isaac Okoro's Favorite Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Emperor?

  • Arcadius (if one does not count Constantine as first)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Justinian the Great

    Votes: 9 15.8%

  • Zeno

    Votes: 2 3.5%

  • Heraclius

    Votes: 3 5.3%

  • Basil II, the Bulgar Slayer

    Votes: 6 10.5%

  • Nikephoros II Phokas, the Pale Death of the Saracens

    Votes: 7 12.3%

  • Alexios I Komnenos

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • John II, the Beautiful Komnenos

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Constantine XI

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • Jim I Chones, the Magnificent

    Votes: 26 45.6%
  • Total voters
    57
daytripper said:
You're responding to the dude that only posts here because he's a Markannen fan. As soon as the Cavs find a 2 way big wing/SF Markk likely moves to 6th man.

After years of watching Cedi I will say that SG is probably his best position. The Cavs have played him out of position since Lebron left. As for Okoro I don't know. He's almost like a PF skillwise in a SG body.
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Over reaction hot take… if he doesn’t live up to his supposed to be defensive strengths and do not develop consistent offensive skills… he is basically good ole Devin Brown right? Not a bad bench player (ideally 3rd string), but if he is starting for your team it means you are not going to be in the playoffs….
 
Great to see some shots finally falling for Okoro (along with 4/4 free throws!!)
He mentioned he's been working with a shooting coach and implementing a whole new shot. Kemba recently said on JJ's podcast that when he was working with a shooting coach, it took a while for it to finally click, but once it did, it was the best thing he's ever done for his career. Hopefully, we start seeing some more flashes of Ice's shot coming along
 
good reminder that Isaac is only 20 years old, so getting inconsistent results from the weaker parts of his game should not be surprising.
I like the kids approach, if the jumper can progress, he's an ideal fit with this group, and he could be a ton more. If it doesn't, then he's a useful role player who still sees the floor when they need to tighten up the defense but ultimately Cavs will need another 2.
 
I'm an Okoro critic but if last night can be a step in the right direction i'm all for it! He is a jump shot away from being a pretty good player and if he's reworking his shot then I'll have patience.
 
yeah, if Okoro makes 2-3 3s a game that's a game changer for his game, lol.

I wish he wouldn't get trigger happy in the clutch like he did yesterday after making a few.
 
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ansatsusha80 said:
Him and Sloth are the biggest Sexton haters in the Cavs media. Even,after Collin basically won the game for us against the Nets last season;they were saying why Collin waited til play good in the 4th quarter and overtime..

Im more surprised they like don't hate Garland like they do Collin because they were on that nonsense about Garland too. Both have good games in a win but will nitpick the hell out of them...

That podcast is nothing but negativity.
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Their issue is they try to be too cool, it’s an incredibly boring podcast
 
People always say "Player X just needs to find a 3pt shot" as if it's somehow trivial to become a decent perimeter shooter in the NBA when you've never been one.

The fact is that guys who were bad shooters in college almost never improve enough to scare NBA defenses. Much longer shot, less time, bigger defenders.

Still, I can see Okoro maybe developing into a late-career Jason Kidd style spot up shooter. He's very mechanical but doesn't look hopeless.
 
Just pass it to his knees. 100% accuracy.
 
He’s
Heat Check said:
People always say "Player X just needs to find a 3pt shot" as if it's somehow trivial to become a decent perimeter shooter in the NBA when you've never been one.

The fact is that guys who were bad shooters in college almost never improve enough to scare NBA defenses. Much longer shot, less time, bigger defenders.

Still, I can see Okoro maybe developing into a late-career Jason Kidd style spot up shooter. He's very mechanical but doesn't look hopeless.
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Every summer there’s a Ben Simmons hype video on his three point shot. Okoro has a rough three point shot, suspect handle and has trouble finishing against opposition. He’s got a lot of work to do. No guarantee he’ll make it.
 
Heat Check said:
People always say "Player X just needs to find a 3pt shot" as if it's somehow trivial to become a decent perimeter shooter in the NBA when you've never been one.

The fact is that guys who were bad shooters in college almost never improve enough to scare NBA defenses. Much longer shot, less time, bigger defenders.

Still, I can see Okoro maybe developing into a late-career Jason Kidd style spot up shooter. He's very mechanical but doesn't look hopeless.
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Free throws have gotten significiantly better, but that is just an indicator. Have to wait and see.

Some truth in what someone said about him being a small PF
 
Solid game last night. If we're going to trash him for the stinkers then we should at least be open to praise for the good games, too.
 
Heat Check said:
People always say "Player X just needs to find a 3pt shot" as if it's somehow trivial to become a decent perimeter shooter in the NBA when you've never been one.

The fact is that guys who were bad shooters in college almost never improve enough to scare NBA defenses. Much longer shot, less time, bigger defenders.

Still, I can see Okoro maybe developing into a late-career Jason Kidd style spot up shooter. He's very mechanical but doesn't look hopeless.
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His jumpshot looked like it had potential in college but needed work. A three point shot opens up the rest of his game. It's why we discuss how much Ben Simmons sucks ad nauseum because lack of shooting hurts the team and his own numbers in a big way.

Collin Sexton 33% -> 37%
Kawhi Leonard 25% -> 38%
Mike Conley 30% -> 38%
Kyle Lowery 32% -> 36%
Jaylen Brown 29% -> 37%
Kemba Walker - 32% -> 36%
Jrue Holiday 30% -> 35%
Channing Frye 26% -> 38%
Jerami Grant 30% -> 34%
TJ Warren 31% -> 35% (above 40% last two seasons)
Pascal Siakam 17% -> 32% (brought down by rookie/sophomore years, currently 3/4 last seasons shooting above 35%)

There's a number of big men that never dared to take threes that have developed into solid/good shooters. Okoro has the odds stacked up against him, but to say it almost never happens is a bit extreme :chuckle:
 
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That right wing seems like his sweet spot, more innacurate when he's deeper in the corner. When he doesn't have to speed up his shooting motion, it doesn't look bad. Baby steps.
 
DirtyDan said:
His jumpshot looked like it had potential in college but needed work. A three point shot opens up the rest of his game. It's why we discuss how much Ben Simmons sucks ad nauseum because lack of shooting hurts the team and his own numbers in a big way.

Collin Sexton 33% -> 37%
Kawhi Leonard 25% -> 38%
Mike Conley 30% -> 38%
Kyle Lowery 32% -> 36%
Jaylen Brown 29% -> 37%
Kemba Walker - 32% -> 36%
Jrue Holiday 30% -> 35%
Channing Frye 26% -> 38%
Jerami Grant 30% -> 34%
TJ Warren 31% -> 35% (above 40% last two seasons)
Pascal Siakam 17% -> 32% (brought down by rookie/sophomore years, currently 3/4 last seasons shooting above 35%)

There's a number of big men that never dared to take threes that have developed into solid/good shooters. Okoro has the odds stacked up against him, but to say it almost never happens is a bit extreme :chuckle:
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long list of players who have turned their jumpers into passable. even beyond this one. Now, turning into sniper level is a different story.
 
Getting up to 35% from the corners is very doable and all he really needs. Anything else is gravy. Even Bruce Bowen was like 40% from the corners once upon a time
 
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