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2021 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

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bob2the2nd said:
Georgia got their crack at Alabama and lost. The end. This happened like a month ago and nothing has changed. At that point in time Georgia should have been eliminated from the conversation.

But instead we are watching the same two teams play again. 100% the rules need to change.
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The thing I never really understood about these scenarios is what exactly is the upside here?

Is it only if Georgia were to win convincingly?

What if Bryce Young gets hurt and Georgia wins by 1 or something?

We are then supposed to believe that Alabama going 1-1 against Georgia with a +16 differential doesn't make them the best team?

The matchup would be compelling to me if Georgia lost in Tuscaloosa in week 3.......then ripped through the rest of their schedule.

But we are literally 1 game removed from Alabama outclassing them on a neutral field and then we are just doing that again?

The whole system is so much more compelling if there are more teams and things like on campus round 1 games.
 
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Scarier part is Saban realized he couldn’t keep winning with mediocre QB’s…. He’s coming for the Heisman QB’s now…

I’d love to see USC and Riley give that team a boost… I liked the game better when USC was good. And I’m a UCLA guy but still…. :chuckle:
 
The issue is with only having four teams in the playoff, not having two of the four teams be from the same conference. The PAC-12 champion has 3 losses. The Big-12 champion has 2 losses. The ACC champion had 2 losses (at the time). If you take Georgia out, who are you putting in their place? No one got snubbed this year at the expense of a second SEC team.

Make it an 8 team playoff, give automatic bids to the 5 conference champions, and then give 3 at-large bids. I’m sure there would still be complaints about something, but you’re giving every conference a chance in that format.
 
PIP said:
Scarier part is Saban realized he couldn’t keep winning with mediocre QB’s…. He’s coming for the Heisman QB’s now…

I’d love to see USC and Riley give that team a boost… I liked the game better when USC was good. And I’m a UCLA guy but still…. :chuckle:
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Not sure what you mean here. They have good QB's every year. What qualifies as their "bad" QB out of curiosity?

Saban is an absolute prep God. He's freakin nearly unbeatable in semis because giving him multi week prep for anyone is a sure fire disaster.

Their lone loss was the first year of the CFP by 7, in that shootout with OSU. Their other results were:

38-0 vs MSU
24-7 vs Washington
24-6 vs Clemson
45-34 vs Oklahoma
31-14 vs ND
27-6 vs Cinci

Their semi final point differential is +115 in 7 games.

So Saban is 6-1 vs top 4 teams with an average margin of victory with extended playoff prep of 16 points. That is absolutely stupid.
 
MediumBaller said:
The issue is with only having four teams in the playoff, not having two of the four teams be from the same conference. The PAC-12 champion has 3 losses. The Big-12 champion has 2 losses. The ACC champion had 2 losses (at the time). If you take Georgia out, who are you putting in their place? No one got snubbed this year at the expense of a second SEC team.

Make it an 8 team playoff, give automatic bids to the 5 conference champions, and then give 3 at-large bids. I’m sure there would still be complaints about something, but you’re giving every conference a chance in that format.
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I think 8 teams at least does a few things that make for, what I believe, would be more competitive games.

It shrinks the break. Less prep time will lead to more variability. Just look at Alabama in the Semis vs Alabama in the title game.

It also allows teams to stay in rhythm to a degree. If it is a 2 week break instead of 4, maybe momentum is retained? As it stands now, it is just completely resetting the entire season.

An additional games also provides more of an opportunity for a team to settle in and get "hot". I think you would see more upsets if the top few teams had byes and they had to play an opponent with a game under their belt and had to do so with only a week of prep. That is one of the reasons I personally like the 12 team proposal........where those top schools have to play teams that already have had a 1 game taste of playoff football.
 
I'mWithDan said:
Not sure what you mean here. They have good QB's every year. What qualifies as their "bad" QB out of curiosity?
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He said “mediocre” not “bad”. I think at the very least, all the QBs pre Tua, if not pre Hurts were mediocre, especially compared to the last 4-5 years.
 
I'mWithDan said:
Not sure what you mean here. They have good QB's every year. What qualifies as their "bad" QB out of curiosity?

Saban is an absolute prep God. He's freakin nearly unbeatable in semis because giving him multi week prep for anyone is a sure fire disaster.

Their lone loss was the first year of the CFP by 7, in that shootout with OSU. Their other results were:

38-0 vs MSU
24-7 vs Washington
24-6 vs Clemson
45-34 vs Oklahoma
31-14 vs ND
27-6 vs Cinci

Their semi final point differential is +115 in 7 games.

So Saban is 6-1 vs top 4 teams with an average margin of victory with extended playoff prep of 16 points. That is absolutely stupid.
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Just in the sense now they’re starting to get those guys that can be 1st round picks, make some noise in the NFL from the QB position..

We’ve seen essentially every other position they have produce that legit NFL talent but with Tua and Mac and Jalen to the kid they have now you’re starting to see it with that position as well...

Whereas before it was like McCarron and Sims and Coker…
 
I'mWithDan said:
I think 8 teams at least does a few things that make for, what I believe, would be more competitive games.

It shrinks the break. Less prep time will lead to more variability. Just look at Alabama in the Semis vs Alabama in the title game.

It also allows teams to stay in rhythm to a degree. If it is a 2 week break instead of 4, maybe momentum is retained? As it stands now, it is just completely resetting the entire season.

An additional games also provides more of an opportunity for a team to settle in and get "hot". I think you would see more upsets if the top few teams had byes and they had to play an opponent with a game under their belt and had to do so with only a week of prep. That is one of the reasons I personally like the 12 team proposal........where those top schools have to play teams that already have had a 1 game taste of playoff football.
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I feel like 12 teams would be too many. Non-playoff bowls are already pretty meaningless, and that would just ramp it up. Then again, a game like this ND/OKST one would be a lot more entertaining if they were playing for something that mattered. With all the opting out players do these days a bigger tournament might actually save the bowls.

My team is never making the playoff so I just want good football games.
 
col63onel said:
He said “mediocre” not “bad”. I think at the very least, all the QBs pre Tua, if not pre Hurts were mediocre, especially compared to the last 4-5 years.
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The past 5 years they have been QB'd by:

Hurts a 4-star dual threat and current NFL starter
Tua, the #1 overall QB recruit and current NFL starter
Mac Jones, who went on to be a top 15 NFL pick and current NFL starter
Bryce Young, the #2 overall QB recruit

What other school has 3 current NFL staring QB's?

I think Young is exceptional but I don't think QB play was holding them back in any way.

I also didn't understand the comment seeing as Hurts, Mac and Tua were all Heisman finalists. :chuckle:

Unless @PIP was arguing that there is some huge leap between a guy who is runner up and a guy who wins?
 
Can't say the performance of the Oklahoma State defense today is inspiring a lot of confidence the buckeye's new hire will fix things... but we'll see.
 
I'mWithDan said:
The past 5 years they have been QB'd by:

Hurts a 4-star dual threat and current NFL starter
Tua, the #1 overall QB recruit and current NFL starter
Mac Jones, who went on to be a top 15 NFL pick and current NFL starter
Bryce Young, the #2 overall QB recruit

What other school has 3 current NFL staring QB's?

I think Young is exceptional but I don't think QB play was holding them back in any way.

I also didn't understand the comment seeing as Hurts, Mac and Tua were all Heisman finalists. :chuckle:

Unless @PIP was arguing that there is some huge leap between a guy who is runner up and a guy who wins?
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No, hes saying the guys before Hurts (or as I said pre Hurts) were mediocre. Now that Bama is developing NFL QBs better than anyone, they are even scarier.
 
lukecfg said:
Can't say the performance of the Oklahoma State defense today is inspiring a lot of confidence the buckeye's new hire will fix things... but we'll see.
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Is he even coaching this game?
 
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