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2022 Cleveland Guardians Regular Season Thread

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Oh and one more note..

Seems like some folks are singing the exact same tune with Hedges that you were with Berto.... Maybe it doesn't matter as much as you want to believe.
 
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Obscured By Clouds said:
I have no problem with Hedges on the team this year, but I do not think they will want his salary on next years payroll.
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Honestly I don't think he will merit enough money to get out a price range they can afford.

Criznit said:
Hedges is a Boras client..

It's hard to gauge his interest in sticking around ala JRam, but odds are some other team will be more than willing to pay more than we would to retain his services.

At this point I think resigning Maile as a "backup" is more likely.

But Hedges on a 2-3 year deal (think options not guaranteed years) could happen.. I assume that is what he will be chasing.
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I never pay attention to agent names until they are near/are free agents.

We need a veteran C to go along with Naylor and Lavastida next season. I'd like a guy who already knows the staff and he is one of the captains on this team, so getting him back to be Lavastida's back up on paper would be nice. I think we can all agree a veteran backup could be necessary for another season or two, until hopefully Naylor and Lava become a duo like Gomes and Perez. Also I wouldn't mind seeing Lava and Naylor getting a few reps outside of C, so they can always be playing if they are hitting well. (Maybe even have the three C system the DBacks have in a sense)
 
sportscoach said:
Honestly I don't think he will merit enough money to get out a price range they can afford.



I never pay attention to agent names until they are near/are free agents.

We need a veteran C to go along with Naylor and Lavastida next season. I'd like a guy who already knows the staff and he is one of the captains on this team, so getting him back to be Lavastida's back up on paper would be nice. I think we can all agree a veteran backup could be necessary for another season or two, until hopefully Naylor and Lava become a duo like Gomes and Perez. Also I wouldn't mind seeing Lava and Naylor getting a few reps outside of C, so they can always be playing if they are hitting well. (Maybe even have the three C system the DBacks have in a sense)
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I believe Maile can be that veteran C for 1/4 the price of Hedges next year.
 
hmm...

Lavas has about two dozen games at AAA and did some "cameo"-like appearances before landing in AAA in 2022.. His skill set as a catcher is improving.. whether he's ready for a role as a starting / primary catcher.. seems doubtful.. but, this is a long season and a lot can happen..

Naylor is spending his second season at AA and has shown significant improvement from 2021 to 2022.. He has agility and hands to be a very good minor league catcher.. He wants to be a catcher. Is he as ready or approaching the readiness Maile has shown.. not really.. but, again.. long season..

A starting catcher remains a dire need for the Guardians..
 
Obscured By Clouds said:
I believe Maile can be that veteran C for 1/4 the price of Hedges next year.
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Agreed 100%. Hedges very spendy for a team with such a low payroll. Never understood why they invested so much payroll in all glove no stick catcher. It seems like you can find guys like that for way less.
 
PocketMonger said:
Agreed 100%. Hedges very spendy for a team with such a low payroll. Never understood why they invested so much payroll in all glove no stick catcher. It seems like you can find guys like that for way less.
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The question is, do you want to keep the catcher that knows the staff the best, in house, but have to pay a little more for him, or go cheaper elsewhere.

It's feels like this to me, running a business, do you keep the guy, who is due a raise, but is good at his job, but you can find equal for cheaper, hiring from outside the organization.

I get both sides of the argument, I'd rather just keep who we have than go outside the organization personally...
 
Criznit said:
Oh and one more note..

Seems like some folks are singing the exact same tune with Hedges that you were with Berto.... Maybe it doesn't matter as much as you want to believe.
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and Berto is gone just like Hedges will be.
 
sportscoach said:
The question is, do you want to keep the catcher that knows the staff the best, in house, but have to pay a little more for him, or go cheaper elsewhere.

It's feels like this to me, running a business, do you keep the guy, who is due a raise, but is good at his job, but you can find equal for cheaper, hiring from outside the organization.

I get both sides of the argument, I'd rather just keep who we have than go outside the organization personally...
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They can keep Hedges for the rest of the season but someone else can learn the staff next winter for way less. Hedges is the fifth highest paid player and accounts for 6% of active payroll. If Amed gets traded at the deadline he'll be the fourth highest and only two million dollar behind Shane Bieber.
 
FWIW it is hard to see Hedges making more than 50% of what he is currently making next year... But then again, the Pirates gave Berto 5 million.... So who knows.
 
CDAV45 said:
There is no "emotional investment" in discussing Hedges lack of offensive production. I'm simply stating that he sucks and that he is a burden to this lineup.

Ironically, I'm not advocating for a trade because I see the solution(s) in house. Meanwhile, Maile who has played as well or better on both sides of the ball than Hedges continues to watch ball games. I love Tito, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with every decision he makes. That doesn't mean I'm driving myself crazy either. What is the definition of insanity anyway? I'd say continuing to trot Hedges, who was always a back up C, out there every game and expecting anything from him is the very definition of it. Again, replaceable my ass.
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You think Maile is the in house answer/ Dude is a ju
CDAV45 said:
and Berto is gone just like Hedges will be.
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Ya but Berto is gone because he could not stay healthy not because he made to much $$$
 
Free agent catchers for next offseason and age:

Yadier Molina - 39.8
Willson Contreras - 30.0
Gary Sanchez - 29.4
Roberto Perez - 33.4
Martin Maldonado - 35.8
Omar Narvaez - 30.2
Christian Vazquez - 31.8
Tucker Barnhart - 31.3
Austin Hedges - 29.8
Mike Zunino - 31.1
 
33Y0 said:
Free agent catchers for next offseason and age:

Yadier Molina - 39.8
Willson Contreras - 30.0
Gary Sanchez - 29.4
Roberto Perez - 33.4
Martin Maldonado - 35.8
Omar Narvaez - 30.2
Christian Vazquez - 31.8
Tucker Barnhart - 31.3
Austin Hedges - 29.8
Mike Zunino - 31.1
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Hello Mr. Contreras, please have a seat..
 
ZinAZ said:
You think Maile is the in house answer/ Dude is a ju

Ya but Berto is gone because he could not stay healthy not because he made to much $$$
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How in the hell did you come up with that? Maile is a backup C just like Hedges only he's a lot cheaper and has a better bat.

Berto is gone because he got too expensive for his lack of offensive production, just like Hedges has. Hedges became Berto's capable defensive backup just like Maile has become Hedges capable defensive backup.

The in house answers to this catching dilemma are Lavastida and Naylor, not Maile. Lavastida gives a bit of a Jason Kendall vibe to me and Naylor is a good athlete as well who is capable of playing an OF corner. Criznit mentioned Contreras, and I suspect that both Lavastida and Naylor could provide the same defensive versatility as Contreras. Imagine the possibility of carrying 3 catchers on the roster with 2 of them able to play a corner OF.
 
From Jason Lloyd in The Athletic:

Team president Chris Antonetti believes the Guardians’ best baseball is in front of them. Part of the reason is because of how young they are (the Guardians’ average age, according to Baseball Reference, is right around 26 years old. The Class AAA average is around 28). Antonetti also believes Cleveland will see a course correction with some of its pitchers.

Perhaps that started Friday night with Aaron Civale, who entered his start against the Tigers with a 9.85 ERA. He pitched 6 1/3 scoreless innings before departing with cramping in his glute but is expected to be fine for his next start. The Tigers have the second-worst OPS in baseball, which has to be taken into account. Nevertheless, Civale got back to commanding his two-seam fastball, which catcher Austin Hedges believes will be the key to his turnaround.

“If you watch our pitchers throw, when they have fastball execution, they dominate,” Hedges told me. “It all comes off that. All our guys have nasty off-speed stuff. But if you’re not executing your fastball and it gets whacked over the middle of the plate or it’s just a ball, you’re throwing balls all the time, you’re going to have a hard time.”
 
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