2022 Cleveland Guardians Regular Season Thread

DCTribefan said:

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I’ll simplify the playoff picture for you Buster. The Central and West Division Champions and Eastern Division less Baltimore.

sportscoach said:

Kwan had about the same numbers last season as Brennan, that being stated, Kwan forced our FOs hand cause of that and Brennan is doing the same thing. It's hard not to merit adding him to the 40 man roster.

I really think we are going to make a buy move for a player line a Reynolds/France to fill in a need while helping JRam...

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You could be right Coach, but I just don’t know. Something has to give though.

I just don't think we can win any trade we make at market value this year.
Reynolds may well be moved by Pit, but they can afford to wait (a long time) for a king's ransom.
We're not at the final piece stage yet, and I'm not helping Pit up off of the canvas.

Benway said:

I just don't think we can win any trade we make at market value this year.
Reynolds may well be moved by Pit, but they can afford to wait (a long time) for a king's ransom.
We're not at the final piece stage yet, and I'm not helping Pit up off of the canvas.

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But Reynolds still has 3.5 year of control left. He's not a rental at all. He's been a 4.7 WAR player per 650 PA's since entering the league. Jose's career WAR per 650 PA's sits at 5.7. He's not quite at Jose level but he's pretty close. I'd gladly part with one of Espino or Williams to get him.

PocketMonger said:

But Reynolds still has 3.5 year of control left. He's not a rental at all. He's been a 4.7 WAR player per 650 PA's since entering the league. Jose's career WAR per 650 PA's sits at 5.7. He's not quite at Jose level but he's pretty close. I'd gladly part with one of Espino or Williams to get him.

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So would I.
But Pit wants more, Much more.

They will extract a King's Ransom for him, or they will Not make a trade.
They can easily afford these terms.

Benway said:

So would I.
But Pit wants more, Much more.

They will extract a King's Ransom for him, or they will Not make a trade.
They can easily afford these terms.

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One of (Espino/Williams) (OGon/Kwan) and (Arias/Freeman/Rocchio) should be pretty close and yes I'd do that too.

Reynolds is a stud and makes the Gards much better for three plus years.

PocketMonger said:

One of (Espino/Williams) (OGon/Kwan) and (Arias/Freeman/Rocchio) should be pretty close and yes I'd do that too.

Reynolds is a stud and makes the Gards much better for three plus years.

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I think you're trading two of Espino, Williams, Valera. Then two other high end prospects like Kwan and Arias. That's probably getting you in the competitive area.

If the price is Espino, Williams, Rocchio and Freeman, I think I pass.

Out of the Rafters at the Q said:

I think you're trading two of Espino, Williams, Valera. Then two other high end prospects like Kwan and Arias. That's probably getting you in the competitive area.

If the price is Espino, Williams, Rocchio and Freeman, I think I pass.

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With the imminent elimination of the shift, there’s not a chance I’d trade away Espino or Williams. Now, more than ever, strikeout pitchers are going to be extremely valuable.

League-wide BABIP will undoubtedly rise, which will hurt pitch-to-contact guys like Civale, Plesac, and Quantrill.

draft..

pay huge signing bonuses...

develop talent only visible by the CleFO/Player Personnel dept..

then, upon the precipice of becoming major leaguers.. send a pile of them away??

HARD PASS.. if the Pirates want a shit ton of prospects.... get them someplace else.. The Guardians have to GUARD their lifeblood/source of competitiveness.. and hold onto the ones that will contribute like grim death.. The flavor of the month club will just have to get a different flavor..

Gson said:

draft..

pay huge signing bonuses...

develop talent only visible by the CleFO/Player Personnel dept..

then, upon the precipice of becoming major leaguers.. send a pile of them away??

HARD PASS.. if the Pirates want a shit ton of prospects.... get them someplace else.. The Guardians have to GUARD their lifeblood/source of competitiveness.. and hold onto the ones that will contribute like grim death.. The flavor of the month club will just have to get a different flavor..

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not much I would give beside, ahmed, and one middle infielder and one not top tier pitching prospect. Possibly a catcher prospect not named Naylor.
Frankly I think we need a decent SP more than a hitter

When the shift is illegal next year everybody's offense will be improved.
So it will be nice to have young pitchers who can make you swing and miss like Espino & Williams.
No way in hell I'm trading those guys.
However, I could be tempted to trade a SP now.

Mott the Hoople said:

When the shift is illegal next year everybody's offense will be improved.
So it will be nice to have young pitchers who can make you swing and miss like Espino & Williams.
No way in hell I'm trading those guys.
However, I could be tempted to trade a SP now.

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Agreed. TMac is probably the only MLB starter who is untouchable right now if I'm GM.

Mott the Hoople said:

When the shift is illegal next year everybody's offense will be improved.
So it will be nice to have young pitchers who can make you swing and miss like Espino & Williams.
No way in hell I'm trading those guys.
However, I could be tempted to trade a SP now.

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Does the shift really work, though?​

When you have a defense playing in an extreme shift, it also means you’re leaving a lot of open field for a player to take advantage of. These are professional hitters who are capable of beating shifts, and it happens probably more often than many people think.
According to the Washington Post, banning the defensive shift would probably result in a minimal increase of runs scored. For nearly as often as that would-be base hit up the middle gets robbed by the shift, you have a shift-busting hit into open field.
Via WaPo:

Baseball Info Solutions reports shifting caused 213 would-be hits to be turned into outs in last year’s shortened 60-game season, which translates to 575 hits-to-outs over a normal, 162-game season. Turning those outs back into hits would result in an increase of less than 1.5 percent in a typical season. That doesn’t feel like a sea change.

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MLB teams and MLB owners know this. It’s probably why the players union agreed to banning the shift in the first place. The actual impact will be marginal at best, but aesthetically, the game could improve. You’ll no longer need access to an advanced scouting report to know why the Dodgers are playing with two right fielders against Freddie Freeman.
It potentially makes the game more approachable to the casual fan — even if other sports (like, um, the NFL) have unique alignments for given situations.

Just thinking after watching an average AAA pitcher totally shut down the G's in his MLB debut.,,,,

Changes need to be made to the offense for sure. I'm not too worried about the pitching. The G's seem to find pitchers when they need them.

Most people would agree we are weak at C and OF right now. However, those positions might be filled next season by Valera and Bo Naylor. (But I don't expect them to come north right after next spring training).
But I also think we have a glaring need at 1B. I have never seen as many balls get passed our 1B as have gotten past this season. God bless Josh Naylor, but he's just not too agile over there. Josh would be a great DH.

I wonder what it would take to get Ryan Mountcastle from the Orioles. If you have to pay a heavy price, I might be more interested in Mountcastle than Reynolds. Wouldn't it be nice to have a 6'4" RH power hitting 1B? He can also play LF.

If they want young players - we've got 'em.