2022 Season Series #26 | Guardians @ Tigers | July 4-6, 2022

BimboColesHair said:

Ernie Clement was spotted with a first baseman’s mitt today.

He was also spotted with an old school TPX Warrior hoping no one would notice in the batting cages.

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BimboColesHair said:

Was never in the lineup.

Sounds like he isn’t available to pinch hit either.

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Criznit said:

Well someone messed up then because he was earlier on the baseball press lineup and was listed as a starter in my fantasy league.

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sportscoach said:

So Miller, who isn't as strong defensively, will be put into a role that he only plays a couple times (at most) a week? In OOTP that works, but in real life, you are wasting away Miller in that role. He won't hit any better than Clement, if anything he may produce less... He doesn't run as well as Clement does, doesn't play as good of defense. He has never played in the OF.

From watching Miller, he doesn't have as thick of skin at times as Clement does. Miller sometimes let's things get to him and putting him in Clements role will actually regress him not help him get better. He still has some upside and developing to do while Clement doesn't. I want Miller to either get through this tough stretch with almost everyday ABs either here or at AAA. He cannot turn it around as the guy who is at the end of the bench. It's way too soon to sacrifice Miller since putting him in Clements role will be that...



Clement has the most thankless role in baseball... I actually haven't seen anyone in baseball better suited for that role in Francona's system. He always has the garbage man like that at the end of the bench. Whether you like or dislike the role, Francona always has a guy like him there and we have to deal with it...

I agree and disagree with it myself. I have run a million teams in OOTP so I get roster construction better than most on paper. Most of the time I end up with guys who can play everywhere defensively and whatever they hit, is bonus. I almost always have the kid from the Cubs with the name of Morel since in the game he can play everywhere but C fairly well. As long as he is playing most days (I have him playing once a week at every position, so he always plays) he never has moral troubles. How many people in real life can put aside their pride and are willing to do that type of thing, while maybe getting once or twice a week playing? I have been around guys who have made professional teams, it's not always simple to find those who put aside their egos like Clement has for the team.

The problem is the garbage man has the same OPS as some of the starters... Let's get the starters fixed and see how everything else falls. Clement in his role isn't a problem, it's when the guys in front of him aren't doing any better, that there is problems. Your end of the bench guy, better not be hitting the same as the starter. If that happens, changes need to happen to the starters...

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Criznit said:

Well someone messed up then because he was earlier on the baseball press lineup and was listed as a starter in my fantasy league. He is not anymore.

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KluberSociety said:

I don't really see how Jones is an immediate solution to anything. The advantage he has is he's on the 40 man, but he doesn't put the ball in play enough and when he does it isn't with some kind of immense power. Sure he could draw a walk but so could Jake Bauers. If he is worth most as a 3B then maybe he'd make good trade bait because we already have one.

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Gson said:

Criz.. it's coach's fault.. he posted it... and was the ONLY one..

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sportscoach said:

Well today's lineup is out and Naylor is at DH, Miller at 1B and Reyes in RF...

Also it was Young and Pilkington down, and Sandlin up...

@CDAV45

You sure we don't need bullpen help?

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CDAV45 said:

The hell he won't hit better than Clement. WTF are you even talking about? I'm not certain, but I believe Miller is faster than Clement too. You're pulling stuff out of your backside again.

Your end of the bench guy can either be like Clement(don't want to see him much) or he can be a guy like Marwin Gonzalez or Ben Zobrist. In other words being a good ML baseball player that doesn't make you gasp when they're in the lineup. Being the utility guy doesn't mean you have to suck so fans like you can make excuses for them.

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CDAV45 said:

BP help is coming. We've had this conversation already.

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sportscoach said:

From where? Lol

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CDAV45 said:

Karinchak is already up and Vargas will be up after the break. The BP isn't the issue Coach. This team has managed to score 11 runs is the last 5 fucking games. This offense sucks right now and it's not the BP's fault they aren't winning more games. It's going to get better though.

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BimboColesHair said:

Definitely, because I heard it was not a fun night and morning for Josh.

Would have been pure negligence had they played him today.

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CDAV45 said:

Karinchak is already up and Vargas will be up after the break. The BP isn't the issue Coach. This team has managed to score 11 runs is the last 5 fucking games. This offense sucks right now and it's not the BP's fault they aren't winning more games. It's going to get better though.

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