Out of the Rafters at the Q
Out of the Rafters
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Gen xCan someone help me find the middle ground between boomer and incel? I want to be on the right side of history and I’m clearly out of touch.
Thank youThis is like Kyrie telling people that they'll never understand what it means to be a civil rights activist today.
It's okay. I hope you figure it out at some point. We all learn and grow.
Can someone help me find the middle ground between boomer and incel? I want to be on the right side of history and I’m clearly out of touch.
This post is full of weeds.Least productive thread in a long time which is incredible
Say what you agree and disagree with rather than these half ass insults that don't actually cut deep and have little acid behind them. Weeds everywhere
I already solved the thread.Least productive thread in a long time which is incredible
Say what you agree and disagree with rather than these half ass insults that don't actually cut deep and have little acid behind them. Weeds everywhere
What's funny is I suggested the church as well. Yes, society has changed in recent years, and because of that, you sure as hell won't find women who are cooking, home making virgins outside the church anymore. But a couple of these guys think they can.
Oh god, this gives me flashbacks.This post is full of weeds.
We want the flavor! Salt, fat, acid, heat. Stop serving us bread, David.
Call out the specifics. Put posts on blast.
Hop on in! The lava's fine.
I crushed this thread and made you look silly. I’m not sorry.Alright, time for some real talk.
First, @David. I think you are more similar in thought to the three amigos than to the rest of us. However, you've already walked many of the paths they are currently staring at. You're also someone who is capable of self-reflection and introspection and isn't afraid of conclusions that damage the ego. I think your experience is valuable, and could help these men in a way that blunt responses cannot.
To the first of the three amigos. You claim your primary objective is to give your parents a grandchild as soon as possible. If this is true, just adopt bro. You can find a little one to love and cherish and give your parents the opportunity to view as much of that child's life as possible. You're also giving yourself the opportunity to see as much of your grandchildren's lives as possible.
If you don't want to adopt, then you have to look at the barriers that you're putting up. If you're limiting yourself to "IG 10's" then you're saying you prioritize that over giving a grandchild to your parents. If you're limiting yourself to women who will be subservient in the household, you're prioritizing that over giving a grandchild to your parents.
It can hurt, but we should always be honest with ourselves. Say it out loud--speak in terms of "I'm making this a priority" and "I'm not making this a priority" and see how it feels.
Speaking from someone well down the road of an awesome relationship that I wouldn't trade for the world, a lot of the things you're talking about don't matter. Once you've fucked someone a thousand times, who cares if she's an IG 10 or not? Pussy is pussy bro--and if you guys actually have an awesome relationship and you both love making the other person feel good, that's going to result in way better sex than a vapid, shitty relationship with someone who's physically attractive. Heck, you want to knock her up ASAP. Her body will never be the same after that. And, that's okay. My wife is pregnant with our second and just being aware of what she's willing to put herself through for our family is attractive as fuck. She's willingly ruined her body twice for our family, and I couldn't be more in love with her or appreciative of that.
To the second amigo, I think you're regurgitating a lot of talking points that you've picked up from a very narrow online bubble. Try to get outside of the manosphere. I can recommend some content that might help you if you're interested. Some awful content that might be appealing to you and help you with your logic would be someone like Destiny. While toxic and awful, he's not going to steer you towards Andrew Tate.
To the third amigo, just take a deep breath and be willing to hear from those who hold views that conflict with the ones you've currently held. You came into this thread like a freshman bowler who's never even thrown a strike while talking to people who are veterans of the PBT with multiple 300 games under their belt, and you're telling them how to throw strikes. Those with open ears hear the most. (Sweet bowling reference, right? Is that poggers?)
Did you use commercial traps, or make your own out of borax and sugar?Oh god, this gives me flashbacks.
When my wife and I lived in Florida, we discovered that our townhouse complex was built on ghost ant mounds.
The fucking things are impossible to get rid of. At certain times of year they want grease and at others they want sugar. You have to put the bait out and pray one of them has enough of it on them to feed it to the queen and kill her, and wait for them all to die out over time. If that doesn’t work and you piss them off, they just keep splitting off into multiple colonies with more queens.
They crawled in perfectly straight lines following our water lines and we’d find them in our food in the morning.
Infuriating.
That's good to know. Most of the women I see online nowadays tend toward asexual, have a lot of antipathy toward men, and make a lot of demands that most guys aren't willing to accommodate. Since we're on a forum of mostly dudes, in one sense I'm not surprised they're having trouble finding women who meet their specifications, because we're in an age where most non-religious women insist those specifications are antiquated, "boomer," or misogynist.Well, "cooking, home making virgins", sure. But if you leave out the "virgin" part, I think there are still significant numbers of non-religious women, of all ages, who actually prefer having a guy be a primary breadwinner if that means they can spend more time at home or have a less demanding job. I've got a couple of daughters, both successful, they all have friends, and a lot of them would like to find that kind of situation, especially if they have kids or want kids.
I just don't think it's black and white where you're either an extra in the Handmaiden's Tale, or you want no distinctions between men and women at all. A whole lot of women fall somewhere in the middle.
You certainly did. I aspire to be like you. I know it's unachievable, but the thought of, one of these days, being like you? That's the only thing that motivates me to drag my old creaking bones and barely functioning heart out of bed each day. Please don't take away my hope--regardless of how fleeting it may be.I crushed this thread and made you look silly. I’m not sorry.
I probably believe a little bit of what both sides believe, and my own stuff, but I'm not sure how serious five is with what he's saying.Alright, time for some real talk.
First, @David. I think you are more similar in thought to the three amigos than to the rest of us. However, you've already walked many of the paths they are currently staring at. You're also someone who is capable of self-reflection and introspection and isn't afraid of conclusions that damage the ego. I think your experience is valuable, and could help these men in a way that blunt responses cannot.
To the first of the three amigos. You claim your primary objective is to give your parents a grandchild as soon as possible. If this is true, just adopt bro. You can find a little one to love and cherish and give your parents the opportunity to view as much of that child's life as possible. You're also giving yourself the opportunity to see as much of your grandchildren's lives as possible.
If you don't want to adopt, then you have to look at the barriers that you're putting up. If you're limiting yourself to "IG 10's" then you're saying you prioritize that over giving a grandchild to your parents. If you're limiting yourself to women who will be subservient in the household, you're prioritizing that over giving a grandchild to your parents.
It can hurt, but we should always be honest with ourselves. Say it out loud--speak in terms of "I'm making this a priority" and "I'm not making this a priority" and see how it feels.
Speaking from someone well down the road of an awesome relationship that I wouldn't trade for the world, a lot of the things you're talking about don't matter. Once you've fucked someone a thousand times, who cares if she's an IG 10 or not? Pussy is pussy bro--and if you guys actually have an awesome relationship and you both love making the other person feel good, that's going to result in way better sex than a vapid, shitty relationship with someone who's physically attractive. Heck, you want to knock her up ASAP. Her body will never be the same after that. And, that's okay. My wife is pregnant with our second and just being aware of what she's willing to put herself through for our family is attractive as fuck. She's willingly ruined her body twice for our family, and I couldn't be more in love with her or appreciative of that.
To the second amigo, I think you're regurgitating a lot of talking points that you've picked up from a very narrow online bubble. Try to get outside of the manosphere. I can recommend some content that might help you if you're interested. Some awful content that might be appealing to you and help you with your logic would be someone like Destiny. While toxic and awful, he's not going to steer you towards Andrew Tate.
To the third amigo, just take a deep breath and be willing to hear from those who hold views that conflict with the ones you've currently held. You came into this thread like a freshman bowler who's never even thrown a strike while talking to people who are veterans of the PBT with multiple 300 games under their belt, and you're telling them how to throw strikes. Those with open ears hear the most. (Sweet bowling reference, right? Is that poggers?)