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Its too damn cold Saints @ Browns
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Play action and read option. There’s zero reason that shouldn’t be the staple of this offense by now. They had all training camp to design it. And should have implemented some of it with brissett and had it ready to go for Watson.
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Yep that was one play and it was a massive drop. You're right.
I'm suggesting you continue to run the ball because it pays dividends later in the game. We watched those dividends roll into chunk runs and then threw consecutively on 3rd and 2 and 4th and 2.
Don't even get me started on Hunt being the game in the 4th quarter.
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Are you saying the wind knocked down all 3 of those TD drops because it did not. All 3 passes hit the receivers on their hands. Bring up the wind MPH is an excuse.
If the ball hits the receivers in the hands in 25-42 MPH wind how is the wind still an excuse?
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stats without context, the domain of smooth brained motherfuckers.
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DW4 had plenty of running opportunities but he didn't take them.
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Well, thankfully, the Browns don’t play home games right off one of the great lakes where the wind and the cold is a factor late in the season every winter.
Oh wait fuck.
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Stefanski couldn’t have been worse today.
If it isn’t one or more of the coaches, it’s the QB. Or one or more of the units. Or ownership.
They never have everyone moving in the same direction at once.
Worst franchise in sports. And right now they’re actually mediocre.
Losers.
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But listen to what we're saying. We agree that the run game was being stuffed all the way up until our final drive. So that means that we absolutely need to make plays in the passing game.
So were the plays there to be made in the passing game? The answer is hell yes. There were drops and overthrows. The same way you're complaining about that 2rd and 3 pass and 4th and 2 pass we can complain about Chubb and Hunt being stuffed on 3rd and 4th and short because they were.
How many times did Teller and Pocic get blown off the ball today? Too many. If these passing plays ld to a bunch of coverage sacks I would agree with you but we're talking about plays where the receiver is wide open and the weather did not effect the passes. They were dropped or overthrown.
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There's a wide open guy in the right side of the end zone. Just sayin'.
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Nope. Not at all. I'm talking specifically about the 4th and 2 throw, it was a deep sideline pattern. Watson had to put some air under the ball to get it over the defense, a wind gust caught the ball, and it went over DPJ's head. You and CBBI were crucifying Watson for not making that pass. Watson did fine throwing the ball as long as he could throw it hard and on a line. He couldn't make any completions when he tried to put any air under it at all, because of the wind. That is just physics. A deep out pattern going over the coverage isn't a great choice as a play call when it's 4th and 2 in today's conditions.
That's all I'm saying.
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Earlier in the game the Browns were struggling to run the ball.
They fell behind LATE and got shit field position in key points of the game. Hence all the throwing. Chubb really wasn't able to get going until after the Aints were in both the clock and score advantage.
My beef is the throws were chosen (like on that 4th and 2, when maybe a 2 yard checkdown was available).
O-Line continues to struggle, which trickles down to QB and RBs.
Penalties didn't help (like the one called on DPJ that almost nerfed a drive).
The outcome is what it is. Had the Browns a solid, stable, consistent defense the "playoff" situation would not be an issue; they'd be ahead of the Ratbirds and breathing down the Cincinnati Cowboys' neck. They don't, so they are here.
The NFL is elated, as their plan to dupe the noose swinging, hall monitor concern troll sector of the public into thinking they are responsible, empathetic stewards of capital with an 11-game suspension has succeeded.
In reality, the Browns were sufficiently punished by resetting the market for the most coveted position in the game, in guaranteeing more money for a player that became too "uppity" in their eyes and sat out a year requesting a trade. When it comes to gambling (an infraction the NFL takes more seriously for.... reasons), the NFL won theirs and the Browns conceded theirs (for clarity, lack of investment in the defensive line and on Joe Woods) prior to the Watson decision.
It is now a moment of clarity. The clock is now on, and Haslam/Berry have seen enough to see what's not working. IMO, the lack of serious investment post-suspension says that they already knew it would be sunken cost. Some were optimistic that maybe there was a chance to buck the engineered outcome (I was in this group), others weren't. We're here. What do the Browns do?
They fell behind LATE and got shit field position in key points of the game. Hence all the throwing. Chubb really wasn't able to get going until after the Aints were in both the clock and score advantage.
My beef is the throws were chosen (like on that 4th and 2, when maybe a 2 yard checkdown was available).
O-Line continues to struggle, which trickles down to QB and RBs.
Penalties didn't help (like the one called on DPJ that almost nerfed a drive).
The outcome is what it is. Had the Browns a solid, stable, consistent defense the "playoff" situation would not be an issue; they'd be ahead of the Ratbirds and breathing down the Cincinnati Cowboys' neck. They don't, so they are here.
The NFL is elated, as their plan to dupe the noose swinging, hall monitor concern troll sector of the public into thinking they are responsible, empathetic stewards of capital with an 11-game suspension has succeeded.
In reality, the Browns were sufficiently punished by resetting the market for the most coveted position in the game, in guaranteeing more money for a player that became too "uppity" in their eyes and sat out a year requesting a trade. When it comes to gambling (an infraction the NFL takes more seriously for.... reasons), the NFL won theirs and the Browns conceded theirs (for clarity, lack of investment in the defensive line and on Joe Woods) prior to the Watson decision.
It is now a moment of clarity. The clock is now on, and Haslam/Berry have seen enough to see what's not working. IMO, the lack of serious investment post-suspension says that they already knew it would be sunken cost. Some were optimistic that maybe there was a chance to buck the engineered outcome (I was in this group), others weren't. We're here. What do the Browns do?