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Donovan Mitchell: All-NBA BEST Team

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Grade the Trade

  • A+

    Votes: 71 25.5%
  • A

    Votes: 109 39.2%
  • B

    Votes: 60 21.6%
  • C

    Votes: 26 9.4%
  • D

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • F

    Votes: 7 2.5%

  • Total voters
    278
No, YOU don’t do the deal.

Most of the rest of us wish we had Lauri and Sexton and Ochai and the picks and swaps but getting Mitchell means sacrifices have to be made. Not easy to get a guy like that.
I'm not sure most the rest of us would rather have Lauri over Mitchell.
 
How many of you/us think Lauri will be a perennial All-Star?

I think Lauri has more to his ceiling but I'm not sure if that is perennial all star. I also think Sexton is starting to get back on track and Utah is going to have a good player in him. OA looks to have good potential.

The Mitchell deal has handcuffed us and reduced our flexibility. We still have to wait for Mobley to develop which I think really will drive the direction of this team. For me, the Mitchell trade was too early in the cycle. I think we sold low on Lauri, Sexton, and OA. If Lauri takes this jump while still on the Cavs, we are looking at a completely different level of additional assets for a Mitchell like deal. Lauri might not have been an all star when we traded him but he became one soon after and that's the problem.

I think waiting for more natural progression for this team before going with an all in move like Mitchell may have created a better ceiling. It also didn't help to do a move for Caris Levert and waste asset only a few months earlier then have a player that is made fairly redundant by the all in move of Mitchell.
 
I think Lauri has more to his ceiling but I'm not sure if that is perennial all star. I also think Sexton is starting to get back on track and Utah is going to have a good player in him. OA looks to have good potential.

The Mitchell deal has handcuffed us and reduced our flexibility. We still have to wait for Mobley to develop which I think really will drive the direction of this team. For me, the Mitchell trade was too early in the cycle. I think we sold low on Lauri, Sexton, and OA. If Lauri takes this jump while still on the Cavs, we are looking at a completely different level of additional assets for a Mitchell like deal. Lauri might not have been an all star when we traded him but he became one soon after and that's the problem.

I think waiting for more natural progression for this team before going with an all in move like Mitchell may have created a better ceiling. It also didn't help to do a move for Caris Levert and waste asset only a few months earlier then have a player that is made fairly redundant by the all in move of Mitchell.
26 year old superstars on long term contracts don't come available every year. There is no "too early" for a guy of that caliber, particularly for a team that had 2 all-stars even younger the year before.

Lauri Markkenen isn't going to be the top option on a good-great team. He's had a feel-good story this year for sure. I'd bet that this goes down as the best year of his career unless he stays on bad teams forever.

I'll take the guy that put up 73 and 11 on a team that's likely to host a playoff series.

Sexton is meaningless to me for the Cavs' roster. Ochai may be a decent roleplayer, but I'm not losing sleep over it any time soon, if ever.

They gave up a lot of picks and swaps that I'll be keeping my eye on going forward for sure.
 
26 year old superstars on long term contracts don't come available every year. There is no "too early" for a guy of that caliber, particularly for a team that had 2 all-stars even younger the year before.

Lauri Markkenen isn't going to be the top option on a good-great team. He's had a feel-good story this year for sure. I'd bet that this goes down as the best year of his career unless he stays on bad teams forever.

I'll take the guy that put up 73 and 11 on a team that's likely to host a playoff series.

Sexton is meaningless to me for the Cavs' roster. Ochai may be a decent roleplayer, but I'm not losing sleep over it any time soon, if ever.

They gave up a lot of picks and swaps that I'll be keeping my eye on going forward for sure.

The things for me is Mitchell plays a position where there is a lot of depth in the NBA and Koby has been able to build depth there too. If there is a position that Koby has had an eye to draft it's SG. Mitchell is better than any he has gotten but compared to Koby's track record or lack of at getting a SF, SG would be somewhere that Koby could moneyball and get someone for a small asset/draft pick and on a cheap contract.

Lauri is on just as long of a contract as Mitchell so there wasn't a clock ticking to get rid of him. He might not be a number 1 option but I think this team goes as Mobley develops even with Mitchell. Mobley isn't full formed and I think we would have a clearer picture of what we need when he gets closer to a full developed player.

Lauri as an All-star level player and all the draft picks could have been held to go after a SF if Lauri and the triple towers lineup didn't prove a strategic advantage. What was left over I think would have given Koby a good chance at filling the SG spot if no one had stepped up into that spot and I think we end up with better overall rotation depth.
 
There a couple of them here:

  • Mitchell is going to have problems on every team he goes to. He is an undersized SG and needs certain personnel around him to mask it. No team is going to plug him in and win a championship.

  • It's why I've brought him up as a Sexton comparison for a while now. Good player. Great scorer. But he's small for his position and he has poor vision and/or just doesn't like passing. Whether its physical or its attitude, doesn't matter. Though the last I guess you could hope you could fix. But he'd be far more impactful if he could play point guard more. But he can't.
  • Donovan Mitchell is a slightly better player with slightly longer arms. Sexton is a better shooter, similar playmaker, and draws more fouls and is 2 years younger. Mitchell is an equally bad defender, worse attitude on defense.

I read this post without context and was legit worried about your mental state for a minute. :chuckle:
 
The things for me is Mitchell plays a position where there is a lot of depth in the NBA and Koby has been able to build depth there too. If there is a position that Koby has had an eye to draft it's SG. Mitchell is better than any he has gotten but compared to Koby's track record or lack of at getting a SF, SG would be somewhere that Koby could moneyball and get someone for a small asset/draft pick and on a cheap contract.

Lauri is on just as long of a contract as Mitchell so there wasn't a clock ticking to get rid of him. He might not be a number 1 option but I think this team goes as Mobley develops even with Mitchell. Mobley isn't full formed and I think we would have a clearer picture of what we need when he gets closer to a full developed player.

Lauri as an All-star level player and all the draft picks could have been held to go after a SF if Lauri and the triple towers lineup didn't prove a strategic advantage. What was left over I think would have given Koby a good chance at filling the SG spot if no one had stepped up into that spot and I think we end up with better overall rotation depth.
I can’t really tell if this post seriously. Mitchell is way more valuable than Laurie he’s a fuckibg killer and I can bet my life that in a close game I trust mitchel way more than I would with Laurie. Don’t get me wrong laurie is a heck of a player but the spider is the fucking spider. Case closed
 
I can’t really tell if this post seriously. Mitchell is way more valuable than Laurie he’s a fuckibg killer and I can bet my life that in a close game I trust mitchel way more than I would with Laurie. Don’t get me wrong laurie is a heck of a player but the spider is the fucking spider. Case closed

I'm not comparing Lauri to Mitchell. I'm talking about building an overall contender with the highest ceiling. I'm just not sure we will end up a contender even with Mitchell if we lack wing depth like we do. I like Mitchell as a player but going all in and having what we have left to make moves is real limited to how we can build out this team.

If Levert get a better offer and walks this offseason, this team is going to not have much depth and just have 2nd round picks to make moves.
 
Some people just like to be negative, just for the hell of it. We'll never hit our highest ceiling until we get more wing depth, oh what a conundrum! Blah, blah, blah. Every single NBA team is and has been flawed, without exception. I'm sure there were Warriors fans in 2014 griping about how they would never hit their ceiling until they got better quality depth in the post. But what they had was unique: the greatest shooter in the history of the game, paired with a perfect complementary player in the backcourt, plus a unique, albeit undersized power forward. They made it work pretty well.

Similarly, this Cavs team is unique. They have a dynamic backcourt duo, complemented by the most athletic pair of post players in the league, who both have exceptionally high ball IQs. If these 4 guys can develop a similar chemistry over time like the Warriors did, I expect them to have similar results as they did. Maybe not quite a dynasty, but a championship or two in the future.
 
A good GM would trade Windler and a 2nd for KD and then trade Sasha Pavlovic and a box of crayons for Voltron.
Voltron? Rookie mistake, much rather have the power rangers or even Optimus Prime.
 
Some people just like to be negative, just for the hell of it. We'll never hit our highest ceiling until we get more wing depth, oh what a conundrum! Blah, blah, blah. Every single NBA team is and has been flawed, without exception. I'm sure there were Warriors fans in 2014 griping about how they would never hit their ceiling until they got better quality depth in the post. But what they had was unique: the greatest shooter in the history of the game, paired with a perfect complementary player in the backcourt, plus a unique, albeit undersized power forward. They made it work pretty well.

Similarly, this Cavs team is unique. They have a dynamic backcourt duo, complemented by the most athletic pair of post players in the league, who both have exceptionally high ball IQs. If these 4 guys can develop a similar chemistry over time like the Warriors did, I expect them to have similar results as they did. Maybe not quite a dynasty, but a championship or two in the future.

I think it would be pretty boring around here if everyone has the same view and is super optimistic of every move this team does. I will admit I do like to think more of the "what if" scenarios with this team through out the years than most people and I do get caught up in those types of conversation when they get brought up.
 

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