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11/23 - Browns (6-4) @ Falcons (4-6) [1:00 PM EST, CBS]

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Damn, you guys are awful salty after a win. No one said he was good today, he was horrible. But damn, what more do you want, we did win the game.

I mean, I'm not pissed that we won. I jumped around in my living room and then picked up my German Shepherd and threw him onto the couch. I was pumped.

However, I don't think it's ridiculous to want to see the team win in a way that doesn't look wildly incompetent. Hoyer played like shit and Pettine made some truly awful coaching decisions throughout and just mismanaged his timeouts completely. Yeah, we won, and that's great, but let's not pretend that we played a complete game, and that's what I want to see right now.
 
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Is Hoyer just that much better in the no-huddle?
 
We are 7-4, and the hate for our QB has never been higher. Some things just never change.

We're not allowed to criticize the obvious bottleneck in our offense because we're 7-4?
 
I mean, I'm not pissed that we won. I jumped around in my living room and then picked up my German Shepherd and threw him onto the couch. I was pumped.

However, I don't think it's ridiculous to want to see the team win in a way that doesn't look wildly incompetent. Hoyer played like shit and Pettine made some truly awful coaching decisions throughout and just mismanaged his timeouts completely. Yeah, we won, and that's great, but let's not pretend that we played a complete game, and that's what I want to see right now.

I don't think anyone liked how Hoyer played today.

But a true test to a team, regardless if they're bad or good, is how they respond when things fall apart.

Hey, I wish the Cavs at least had some of the resiliency that Hoyer at least shows out there.

I don't know if he's the guy going forward, I'll be the first to admit that. He probably isn't the guy.

Hopefully we don't have games like he had today going forward, but I'm glad he was able to respond though and help us win the game.
 
Damn, you guys are awful salty after a win. No one said he was good today, he was horrible. But damn, what more do you want, we did win the game.

Was it pretty, no? But we still won. Same result whether its by 40, or 2.

Hey, at least he redeemed himself and we won. I feel some of you really wanted him to fail there almost, just to see Manziel, because of your displeasure in Hoyer.

Can't scold people for wanting to talk about the elephant in the room. It probably deserves some conversation based on his play today-- especially with a 1st round pick waiting in the wings.

You can say a win is a win all you want but truth is, Hoyer's CONTINUED mistakes and inaccuracy have made the Browns margin for error razor thin and that's not sustainable winning football.

We're building something great here and it's looking more and more like Hoyer is a weak-link, do you expect people to ignore that just because we won?
 
Hoyer was the weak-link today.

We had the running game and we had weapons. Hoyer just didn't play well.

Happy we won. I'll never be happy to lose or be mad about winning. But Hoyer struggled.

Onto the next one.
 
We're not allowed to criticize the obvious bottleneck in our offense because we're 7-4?

Criticize all you want, but some of you still overreact a little, and refuse to give credit when its due.

Hoyer was TERRIBLE today, but you can't even give him any credit at all for that last drive?

If you don't want to be sold on the guy, I don't really care, I'm not even sold on him.

It was an impressive game winning drive though. He needed that for us, after the way he played today, because he was terrible up to that point.
 
Also the loss of Gipson really sucks. Guy was having a pro-bowl year.

I'm assuming he is done.
 
Haha are you serious with this?

The vendetta is alarming here.
He was burnt and lost and lucky it was under thrown by Ryan and hit him in the back of the head. If he wasn't lost in no man's land, he could have looked for the ball and had an easy interception to seal the game.

I have no vendetta. I would say say what is more alarming is the lengths you go to defend him just because you're afraid to be wrong and pride yourself so much about being right about a player's evaluation. I at least acknowledge when he plays good. I'll be sure to keep in mind that criticism of Gilbert is not allowed.
 
He was burnt and lost and lucky it was under thrown by Ryan and hit him in the back of the head. If he wasn't lost in no man's land, he could have looked for the ball and had an easy interception to seal the game.

I have no vendetta. I would say say what is more alarming is the lengths you go to defend him just because you're afraid to be wrong and pride yourself so much about being right about a player's evaluation. I at least acknowledge when he plays good. I'll be sure to keep in mind that criticism of Gilbert is not allowed.


Tough to knock a guy for breaking up a pass with tight coverage on one of the best receivers in the game.

Keep up the good fight.
 

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