2017 Draft Prospects Thread

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FiveThirtyEight came up with a couple interesting numbers. Going to put them in here as we move away from the 2016 Tank and move towards whatever 2017 may turn out to be.

36 percent

Quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns made 567 passing attempts this season and suffered 66 sacks and 138 hits for their troubles. This means that on 36 percent of all passing plays, the QB ended up on the ground, the highest “QB abuse rate” in the NFL.

-0.6 wins

Two excellent analyses of the year-after effect of sacking an NFL head coach dropped Wednesday, one from FiveThirtyEight contributor Michael Lopez and the other from ESPN’s Brian Burke. As one hopes when looking at independent analyses tackling a similar problem, their findings were consistent. Each found that teams that sacked their coach tended to do worse the next season than similar teams that did not fire their coach; Lopez estimated that teams that fired their coach saw their wins drop by about 0.6 the next season, and Burke found that the effect seemed to last, with teams that held on to their coach performing about 6 percent better two years on than those that fired them. Anyway, moral of the story is: best of luck, Rams and Bills.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/significant-digits-for-thursday-jan-5-2017/?ex_cid=SigDig

 

[Soda]

More of the same.....

 

[Ob1]

If he does, that would be incredible. Absolutely would be in play at 12.

If he makes it that far.

Who is this in regards to?

 

[Pick6]

Who is this in regards to?

Solomon Thomas.

 

[Ob1]

Solomon Thomas.

Are we assuming we take a QB at 1 if we are looking at him at 12? can't imagine we'd take 2 DL first round.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Are we assuming we take a QB at 1 if we are looking at him at 12? can't imagine we'd take 2 DL first round.

Myles would be an OLB

Myles Kirksey (likely another draft pick or FA) Collins

Ogbah Shelton Solomon



That would likely be the best front 7 we've had since the return

 

[Ob1]

Myles would be an OLB

Myles Kirksey (likely another draft pick or FA) Collins

Ogbah Shelton Solomon



That would likely be the best front 7 we've had since the return

I'd rather not potentially ruin Myles by making him play without his hand in the dirt.

Is Soloman big enough to move inside in a 4-3 if we play it a lot?

 

[CBBI]

I'd rather not potentially ruin Myles by making him play without his hand in the dirt.

Is Soloman big enough to move inside in a 4-3 if we play it a lot?

There are a lot of different ways they can attack if they ended up with Garrett and Thomas.

Base 3-4
Ogbah-Shelton-Thomas (Des Bryant rotates in)
Garrett-Davis-Kirksey-Collins (Orchard rotates in)

OR

Bryant-Shelton-Thomas (Nassib rotates in)
Garrett-Collins-Kirksey-Ogbah (Orchard rotates in)

Run Downs in Nickel
Garrett-Shelton-Thomas-Ogbah (Bryant rotates in)
Kirksey-Collins

Pass Downs in nickel
Garrett-Nassib-Thomas-Ogbah (Cooper rotates in)
Kirksey-Collins

A whole bunch of options with a lot of talented players up front. Main priority is resigning Collins, then drafting Garrett. I'm not sure Thomas will be there at 12 though.

 

[Pick6]

Him being there at 12 seems more and more unlikely.
View: https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/817099320629440513

 

[AZ_]

I'd rather not potentially ruin Myles by making him play without his hand in the dirt.

Is Soloman big enough to move inside in a 4-3 if we play it a lot?

They already run a hybrid 4-3, whether Myles has his hand on the ground or not is pretty irrelevant.

He's the fourth lineman as an EDGE, while Thomas is probably the most scheme versatile DL in this draft.

Would be an ideal compliment to Shelton. But again, it's not very likely he goes outside the Top 10 if those measurables are true.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Two excellent analyses of the year-after effect of sacking an NFL head coach dropped Wednesday, one from FiveThirtyEight contributor Michael Lopez and the other from ESPN’s Brian Burke. As one hopes when looking at independent analyses tackling a similar problem, their findings were consistent. Each found that teams that sacked their coach tended to do worse the next season than similar teams that did not fire their coach; Lopez estimated that teams that fired their coach saw their wins drop by about 0.6 the next season, and Burke found that the effect seemed to last, with teams that held on to their coach performing about 6 percent better two years on than those that fired them. Anyway, moral of the story is: best of luck, Rams and Bills.

That establishes correlation, but not causation. It may be that the coaches who were retained were just better coaches.

 

[AZ_]

Solomon Thomas against UNC was flat-out ridiculous. I mean, this is some 1-1 pick type of shit from this kid who I admittedly didn't know too much about before bowl season.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

The defensive talent in this class is absolutely insane

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Solomon Thomas against UNC was flat-out ridiculous. I mean, this is some 1-1 pick type of shit from this kid who I admittedly didn't know too much about before bowl season.

Yeah I was watching that game almost 100% because of Trubinski and by the end of the game I was just watching Thomas every single play.

He dominated

 

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Trubinski