2017 Draft Prospects Thread

[natedagg]

I think his accuracy problems are very overblown. He has, at minimum, good accuracy. He had a lot of picks this year that were going through a WRers hands.

Ints are an overblown stat. With Watson, he made his fair share of mistakes, but he almost always more than makes up for it.

Watson will be a good NFL QB, probably top 15, if he develops well. He needs work with making faster reads, and needs to dial it back a little bit on throwing into coverages, but those are easier things to fix.

I understand what you mean about 12. The Browns might be looking at a Pro Bowl caliber talent. I am saying if the Browns are comfortable with what they see/work with in Watson to take him at 12, Im confident he will succeed.

If he plays senior bowl and Hue works with him all week and we take him, we should all operate under the assumption that it's a great pick.

If he plays well in NC and senior bowl, it's not 100% that he lasts until 12 either. It's just how the draft and hype sometimes happen.

I hope that we go D w top 2 picks. Have to be able to stop the run.

 

[Triplethreat]

Went back to watch more Watson, really liked what I saw. He still stares down his first option too much, which really is a bad habit, especially in the NFL.

What i missed last time was his crazy accuracy, fearlessness throwing the ball, and above average ball placement.

If hes there at 12, and Hue likes what he does in the Senior Bowl, then I am all for it.

This is what popped out to me. He is very accurate with the ball and throws a very tight spiral.

Think Watson will be a very good NFL QB with good coaching.

 

[kriegs]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember a recent national championship game performance that could mean so much to a Quarterback prospect's draft stock. Say Watson balls out against Alabama, takes care of the ball and wins this game, I bet some people are going to be talking themselves into throwing him in the Garett/Allen prospect category.

On the other hand if he looks lost out there he could be a 2nd/3rd rounder just as easy. Maybe people who do this for a living and watch tape on him religiously won't be as easily swayed, but at least the perception of Cleveland sports radio chatter and just Watson's buzz in general I feel is very much in the balance.

Excited to see how he responds. It's probably what's got me most intrigued about this game besides watching Allen.

 

[tristan+kyrie=$]

Mitch Trubinsky declared for the draft....

 

[AZ_]

As has Curtis Samuel

 

[Los216]

I'm not high on Mitch at all.

 

[AZ_]

Mitch will be only the third QB to go to the NFL with only a year of starting experience, joining Mark Sanchez and Cam Newton.

He's a lot like one of these guys, from a skill-set perspective, and it isn't Cam.

 

[bigfoot5415]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember a recent national championship game performance that could mean so much to a Quarterback prospect's draft stock.

Cardale Jones says hello. The guy went from undrafted/will never play in the NFL, to 1st round pick in a matter of weeks. It was all solidified after his title game against Bama. Then the hype train grew out of control in the offseason where many mocks had him top 5 because of his skillset and build. Only to go in the 4h round due to a lackluster final year where he seemed to be "exposed".

The amount of money he made in that playoff run, and then cost himself by staying at OSU is unfathomable. This is one of many cases where a college coach did what was better for himself than the student. Would he been exposed...sure. But he may never get the chance to make back the $15-20 million he would have gotten as a much higher pick.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Cardale Jones says hello. The guy went from undrafted/will never play in the NFL, to 1st round pick in a matter of weeks.

Well, he went to "first round pick" among some fans and commentators. I think some team actually drafting him in the first round - especially high in the first round -- would have been a much bigger stretch. There would still have been all the reviewing of film to see what he did (and didn't do) in those games, chalkboard work, etc... My guess is that his immaturity would have come out during that whole process, and he'd have sunk into at least the second round.

 

[chrisrich91]

Mitch will be only the third QB to go to the NFL with only a year of starting experience, joining Mark Sanchez and Cam Newton.

He's a lot like one of these guys, from a skill-set perspective, and it isn't Cam.

Additional perspective, only because the experience point was brought up last year about Wentz as well.

Total # of passing attempts in collegiate career:

Carson Wentz - 612
Mitch Trubisky - 572

Total TD/INT in collegiate career:

Carson Wentz - 45/14
Mitch Trubisky - 41/10

 

[Los216]

Mitch will be only the third QB to go to the NFL with only a year of starting experience, joining Mark Sanchez and Cam Newton.

He's a lot like one of these guys, from a skill-set perspective, and it isn't Cam.

I was just about to bring this up. The main difference is Cam played JUCO before that so he had some experience. Doesn't this make Mitch as much of a project QB as any other QB in the draft? If so you can't justify taking him in the 1st round let alone top 10.

 

[Los216]

Additional perspective, only because the experience point was brought up last year about Wentz as well.

Total # of passing attempts in collegiate career:

Carson Wentz - 612
Mitch Trubisky - 572

Total TD/INT in collegiate career:

Carson Wentz - 45/14
Mitch Trubisky - 41/10

How many different opponents? How many different schemes were thrown at him? Has he ever played the same team twice?

 

[Soda]

I was just about to bring this up. The main difference is Cam played JUCO before that so he had some experience. Doesn't this make Mitch as much of a project QB as any other QB in the draft? If so you can't justify taking him in the 1st round let alone top 10.

Cam really showed his cannon off when he rifled that laptop out of the window at UF.

Looking at these Wentz & Newton similarities reinforces one thing for sure. Size makes up for a ton of shit. Mitch doesn't have the same size, but he has some. Still think Trubisky (not Trubinsky) goes in the top half of the 1st round.

 

[Soda]

 

[natedagg]

As has Curtis Samuel

The Dagg Digest has him going in the top 2 rounds. Is the Dagg Digest way off?

The Clemson game hurt him, but other than that, even against our stiffest competition, he always seemed to stick out on the field as being markedly more explosive than everyone else.

The google says he is the #6 rated WR. I have him being used like Ty Montgomery, and given his explosiveness, that sounds like a reasonable pick in the top 2 rounds.

There's an argument to be made that tOSU didn't give him the ball enough (besides Clemson game). I am not addressing the validity of the argument, just that some GMs are going to salivate: he's the only player this year with 700+ yards receiving and 700+ yards rushing. If he shows out at the combine, probably gone before pick 33.

He's (currently) too light to play NFL RB, but he's explosive, and that goes a long way toward the draft day hype.