2019 Draft, Pick #30 - Kevin Porter Jr., USC

[Real Deal]

We’ve been over this a million times. It was a calculated risk. Trade some minor assets and get a guy with lottery talent, and see if he can thrive within your organizational structure. (Mind you, this was before Allen, before Mobley, and before Spida. The Cavs needed to kick over every rock they could to find talent.). The risk didn’t pay off obviously, but that doesn’t make the decision a bad one.

I'm not gonna sit here and agree it's his best decision yet. It was a risky but yet messy situation. Especially after the miss on Windler when their were a couple of talented guys there.

Hopefully Bates makes up for such things.

 

[cavsfever]

In retrospect, Nic Claxton who went at 31 (one after KPJ) would have been a better pick and better player. We ended up getting a somewhat better version of him with Allen the next year, but at the time we needed a player like that. Claxton will be a double-double good interior defense center in this league for a long time.

So yeah, good for Koby for dumping KPj but I'm not willing to say that the whole KPj episode all round is a shining moment for him.

 

[Real Deal]

In retrospect, Nic Claxton who went at 31 (one after KPJ) would have been a better pick. We ended up getting a somewhat better version of him with Allen the next year, but at the time we needed a player like that. Claxton will be a double-double good interior defense center in this league for a long time.

Out of a very small room of good overall guys at the end we chose the two of KPJr and Windler over Claxton, Poole, and everyone's favorite here Keldon. Someone deserves to be fired on the staff alone.

We can always pretend we took Jerome though, and I applaud Koby for that specific score.

He really needs to get his ass in gear though at the end of these drafts. Mobley and Garland won't always fall in your lap. Bates can be that piece.

 

[cavsfever]

Out of a very small room of good overall guys at the end we chose the two of KPJr and Windler over Claxton, Poole, and everyone's favorite here Keldon. Someone deserves to be fired on the staff alone.

We can always pretend we took Jerome though, and I applaud Koby for that specific score.

He really needs to get his ass in gear though at the end of these drafts. Mobley and Garland won't always fall in your lap. Bates can be that piece.

Damn I forgot Keldon Johnson went one before KP. He’s a player we really could have used.

 

[MikeOC33]

I'm not gonna sit here and agree it's his best decision yet. It was a risky but yet messy situation. Especially after the miss on Windler when their were a couple of talented guys there.

Hopefully Bates makes up for such things.

I see Windler DNP'd last night, but did play 6 minutes in the previous game. Did he get injured in the previous game?

Asking for a friend.... wait, that is not true. Asking for pathetically sad comedic value.

 

[Real Deal]

I see Windler DNP'd last night, but did play 6 minutes in the previous game. Did he get injured in the previous game?

Asking for a friend.... wait, that is not true. Asking for pathetically sad comedic value.

Knicks fans already have him penciled in their victory cigar lineup and love him haha

 

[MikeOC33]

Knicks fans already have him penciled in their victory cigar lineup and love him haha

Windler is that girl I just read about who ate 48 oysters on the first date, that was only supposed to going out for drinks.

He looks good, sounds good, but after 1 game and he is broken you say, wtf is this shit?

I'll look for the link....

Woman eats 48 oysters video: Restaurant reacts to her tip

"People have been roasting this poor girl," the general manager said, after a woman's apparent $11 tip caused a stir on social media.

www.newsweek.com

Funniest response I read was something like, "I asked you out for drinks, not watch you slurp down half the ocean..."

 

[zDawg45]

Windler is that girl I just read about who ate 48 oysters on the first date, that was only supposed to going out for drinks.

He looks good, sounds good, but after 1 game and he is broken you say, wtf is this shit?

I'll look for the link....

Woman eats 48 oysters video: Restaurant reacts to her tip

"People have been roasting this poor girl," the general manager said, after a woman's apparent $11 tip caused a stir on social media.

www.newsweek.com

Funniest response I read was something like, "I asked you out for drinks, not watch you slurp down half the ocean..."

if that was a 1st date and a girl did that. I dont even care. separate check please. lol she wasnt even good looking.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Maybe oysters make her very horny. If so she'd be slurping after dinner.

 

[ShawnKempIsMyDad]

We’ve been over this a million times. It was a calculated risk. Trade some minor assets and get a guy with lottery talent, and see if he can thrive within your organizational structure. (Mind you, this was before Allen, before Mobley, and before Spida. The Cavs needed to kick over every rock they could to find talent.). The risk didn’t pay off obviously, but that doesn’t make the decision a bad one.

I agree. Not every situation like this turns into Emoni Bates. KPJ couldn’t overcome his character flaws. With Emoni it looks like he made a mistake and has moved past it.

 

[BigZ94]

Damn I forgot Keldon Johnson went one before KP. He’s a player we really could have used.

Way I see it is we got Keldon we would have been a better team and missed getting a top 3 pick thus not drafting Mobley. Windler is second greatest thing to ever happen to this franchise after LBJ

 

[The Oi]

Emoni Bates would have quietly paid for her bill, his bill, and everyone else’s in the restaurant and dropped a 40% tip on the waitress who listened to all that slurping along with him.

As he left, he’d have written a glowing review for the place on yelp.

Then he’d have offered her his arm at the door and lead her thicc swampy oyster-eating ass back to whatever hellhole she emerged from in the first place.

 

[Peacedog]

In retrospect, Nic Claxton who went at 31 (one after KPJ) would have been a better pick and better player. We ended up getting a somewhat better version of him with Allen the next year, but at the time we needed a player like that. Claxton will be a double-double good interior defense center in this league for a long time.

So yeah, good for Koby for dumping KPj but I'm not willing to say that the whole KPj episode all round is a shining moment for him.

Has anyone claimed this? Seems you are pummeling a straw man.

 

[AllforOne]

Has anyone claimed this? Seems you are pummeling a straw man.

He is, mostly.

I give Koby credit for taking the risk, and then for cutting his losses when it became apparent KPJ just couldn’t adapt.

Was it his greatest decision, no. But I look at process as much as I do at results. Koby wasn’t trading for a late FRP in order to get a rotation player. He had none at that time (remember, this is when Collin Sexton was coming off his rookie season, and an injured Darius Garland had been drafted about two hours earlier; that was it). He saw a chance to get a lottery-level talent for cheap, and took it. If/when the Cavs are at that stage of franchise development again, I’d hope that whoever is GM then takes similar calculated risks.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Probably his single best decision as Cavs GM.

And he took a lot of crap here for not getting more for him, and/or letting him go and not being able to "work it out".