2019 NBA Draft Lottery

[The Human Q-Tip]

Regardless of who's officially playing PG and who's playing SG, who in a Sexton/White backcourt is going to step up to the task of guarding the NBA's most dangerous backcourt players? It's hard to imagine either of them doing that competently, now or ever. And because they're both too small to guard SFs, you can't get out of jail by playing a defensive specialist at SF in hopes that he'll take care of dangerous backcourt assignments. Seems like we'd have to trade or bench one of them in the long run.

That's how it seems to me as well -- that we'd be drafting White knowing that either he or Sexton will be a third guard on this team. That is less than we should be looking to get for JR's contract. In general, I think you should get your third guard either as a veteran pickup, or as a guard you drafted to be a starter but just didn't turn out to be good enough.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Regardless of who's officially playing PG and who's playing SG, who in a Sexton/White backcourt is going to step up to the task of guarding the NBA's most dangerous backcourt players? It's hard to imagine either of them doing that competently, now or ever. And because they're both too small to guard SFs, you can't get out of jail by playing a defensive specialist at SF in hopes that he'll take care of dangerous backcourt assignments. Seems like we'd have to trade or bench one of them in the long run.

I don't believe White is really on the Cavs radar. I really think White was originally seen by a lot of evaluators as a late lottery pick..and he may be one at 11 to Minnesota possibly...but with the Bulls and Suns both wanting a guard and Garland very possibly going to the Lakers at 4....all of a sudden there's a scarcity at his position and his stock rose.

We know almost for sure they have interest in Hunter and Reddish. We know that they're bringing Culver in--but everything else surrounding Culver has been kind of an unknown.

I think if the Cavs move up from 26 to 13 for example, they will be targeting a big man. Jaxson Hayes or Goga Bitazde.

 

[DeeThree]

I feel the same way. If we aren't taking big swing especially with our lotto picks, I think it's how teams just get stuck being middle of the road either barely making or missing the playoffs. Small market teams just end up overpaying mediocre talent to keep them.

Someone brought up ball handling and Hunter. It's something that's going to limit his overall ceiling. The vast majority of stars in the NBA especially non-centers are good ball handlers. Even Culver has to make a significant leap in his ball handling to reach his ceiling. Players usually don't make that leap just from hard work and practice. Usually the organization or circumstances put the player into a hard situation of handling the ball for a long stretch of a season or two to force them to become a better ball handler.

It kind of why I've gravitated towards Reddish if they want a wing. He already has very good handles and I think it's easier to put in the hard work in shooting, film/shot selection, and mechanics to mold his game to where it needs to be.

Reddish has good handles?

 

[Ozone]

Bol is not going in the top 5 no matter what his medicals say. He still is a 7footer with the navicular fracture and not a lot of actual game time.

didn't stop Embiid from going 3rd. Just saying. and yeah the same injury killed Yao's career but he was 300Lbs as well.
There is concern of course and without full medical history shared with teams that were recruiting him heavily before the injury (NY) that he might have interest in playing for , then he could easily fall to late first because of lack of information. But if he provides a medical history that builds confidence & suggests his most likely issues won't go beyond posterior tibial tendonitis later in life , he could go that high, because he is lightweight for someone that big and could have the recovery similar to Michael Jordan who also suffered a similar injury and obviously did not negatively impact his career.

 

[Ozone]

You really have to be careful calling him an Elite offensive player lol.

without the injury he would be a lock for #2

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

didn't stop Embiid from going 3rd. Just saying. and yeah the same injury killed Yao's career but he was 300Lbs as well.
There is concern of course and without full medical history shared with teams that were recruiting him heavily before the injury (NY) that he might have interest in playing for , then he could easily fall to late first because of lack of information. But if he provides a medical history that builds confidence & suggests his most likely issues won't go beyond posterior tibial tendonitis later in life , he could go that high, because he is lightweight for someone that big and could have the recovery similar to Michael Jordan who also suffered a similar injury and obviously did not negatively impact his career.

Yeah but Embiid was basically the consensus #1 talent. Played 28 games in college. Was still a physical specimen but with foot concerns.


Bol has shown some really impressive skills, but he has also showed a lot of actual concerns on the floor. Only played 9 games. Has always had a tough time putting on weight, and since the injury has lost like 25 pounds.

He's not going top 5 no matter what. I would be any amount of money.

 

[catfish]

didn't stop Embiid from going 3rd. Just saying. and yeah the same injury killed Yao's career but he was 300Lbs as well.
There is concern of course and without full medical history shared with teams that were recruiting him heavily before the injury (NY) that he might have interest in playing for , then he could easily fall to late first because of lack of information. But if he provides a medical history that builds confidence & suggests his most likely issues won't go beyond posterior tibial tendonitis later in life , he could go that high, because he is lightweight for someone that big and could have the recovery similar to Michael Jordan who also suffered a similar injury and obviously did not negatively impact his career.

There is no medical history that will give anyone confidence that a 7 footer with a navicular fracture is going to have a long career. I think the jury is out on whether Embeed was worth 3rd pick in draft. He is a wondrous talent but they havent got out of second round yet and he is beset with injuries.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

I think the jury is out on whether Embeed was worth 3rd pick in draft.

Ehh, I think the jury came back a year and a half ago and said he was worth the #1 pick.

Bol is just not the same physical specimen that Embiid was, not the same prospect. A totally different type of 7 footer and with an extremely concerning body type.

 

[sailfish]

Ehh, I think the jury came back a year and a half ago and said he was worth the #1 pick.

Bol is just not the same physical specimen that Embiid was, not the same prospect. A totally different type of 7 footer and with an extremely concerning body type.

Totally agree. Nevertheless, the Cavaliers are likely to be interested in Bol because of his length & freaky analytics numbers, albeit in a small sample size.

 

[inliner311]

Reddish has good handles?

Yep go look at video of him. He is fluid and has moves. He was a PG in high school and AAU.

 

[2 For The Brew]

There is no medical history that will give anyone confidence that a 7 footer with a navicular fracture is going to have a long career. I think the jury is out on whether Embeed was worth 3rd pick in draft. He is a wondrous talent but they havent got out of second round yet and he is beset with injuries.

Twice he's been:

- All Star
- 2nd team all-NBA
- 2nd team defense

Other than Jokic (drafted 41st overall) nobody in that draft class has anything like that level of accomplishment.

Also - Kevin McHale played through a navicular fracture. Bird publicly stated that it wasn't worth it, but Kevin rolled the dice and it worked out. I can't imagine a team in 2019 allowing that.

 

[Ozone]

Ehh, I think the jury came back a year and a half ago and said he was worth the #1 pick.

Bol is just not the same physical specimen that Embiid was, not the same prospect. A totally different type of 7 footer and with an extremely concerning body type.

Yep he is not the same. he is a better player from the outside than in the paint where his need to add weight is not necessary in fact being lighter might make him better in that 3/4 role and lessen reinjury concerns. If nobody sees him as anything beyond a stretch 5 than he isn't worth it at 26 because that will never be his game after the injury and with that frame probably can't but in the same breath shouldn't add weight to due to injury risk by doing so.
It just wouldn't surprise me some team will be so star struck by his numbers in a short time in college that they ignore the risk, well at least if they have some kind of medical information that is positive.

 

[Ozone]

Yep go look at video of him. He is fluid and has moves. He was a PG in high school and AAU.

Still a sleeper for 5th probably despite a poor college season. The skillset does match the type of player Beilein would like.
But in reality the only excuse justifiable for his lack of motor or better put his passiveness are his core muscle issue and
whether or not the Cavs think that's all that it was and if it won't be an issue in the future.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

without the injury he would be a lock for #2

I am a proponent of Bol Bol but his weight does bother me, especially if he is really down nearly 30 pounds from college. I suspect the college weight was a fabrication but he needs to get stronger and heavier to not get beat up down low.

 

[DeeThree]

without the injury he would be a lock for #2

Must be a weak draft. Because all this dude can do is shoot and occasionally block a shot.