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2020 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

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Multiple sources have said there is no leadership, and someone needs to step up and make a decision rather than 14 schools having 14 different opinions.

The "needs" of those multiple sources don't override the authority of the Presidents/Chancellors of the individual universities. If one of them says "we're not playing" there's not a damn thing Kevin Warren can do about it.

At this point, I'm rooting against a season just for the sheer enjoyment of watching the futbol guyz at those schools bust a vein when they learn the universe doesn't magically bend to their will.
 
The "needs" of those multiple sources don't override the authority of the Presidents/Chancellors of the individual universities. If one of them says "we're not playing" there's not a damn thing Kevin Warren can do about it.

At this point, I'm rooting against a season just for the sheer enjoyment of watching the futbol guyz at those schools bust a vein when they learn the universe doesn't magically bend to their will.
Actually if 1 guy says they aren’t playing it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t take all schools to approve the plan for the B1G to play. So that statement is wrong, Warren CAN do something about it. If 9 presidents approve he can approve the season for those teams and let the others know he will see them when they are comfortable with whatever sport they are ready to have play.

And bend to their will? There are 1,000s of football teams playing. 99% of which don’t have the resources that the Big Ten does to keep these kids healthy and frequently tested. It’s completely asinine that they aren’t playing.
 
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Actually if 1 guy says they aren’t playing it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t take all schools to approve the plan for the B1G to play. So you’re statement is wrong....

Those knuckleheads that are part of the "multiple sources" had the brilliant insight that some self-appointed single decisionmaker can "step up", and just toss out the opinions (actually, decisions) of the 14 heads of those schools. That is either willful ignorance, or plain stupidity. It's like those guys are living in some weird sports fantasy where if someone just "steps up and shows leadership", they can force everyone to follow them. That's not how reality works. There isn't a single decisionmaker, and there isn't going to be one no matter how much they think that "needs" to happen. There are 14 decisionmakers, and none of them are named Kevin Warren. Now if 8 of those individual decisionmakers agree to have a season, then they'll be a season.

But them whining about how there are 14 different people, with 14 different agendas, and that "needs to change", is just juvenile fantasy bullshit. It's not dealing with the inarguable fact that is not how the conference is organized. And since I generally root against stupid people, I'm rooting against them.
 
Those knuckleheads that are part of the "multiple sources" had the brilliant insight that some self-appointed single decisionmaker can "step up", and just toss out the opinions (actually, decisions) of the 14 heads of those schools. That is either willful ignorance, or plain stupidity. It's like those guys are living in some weird sports fantasy where if someone just "steps up and shows leadership", they can force everyone to follow them. That's not how reality works. There isn't a single decisionmaker, and there isn't going to be one no matter how much they think that "needs" to happen. There are 14 decisionmakers, and none of them are named Kevin Warren. Now if 8 of those individual decisionmakers agree to have a season, then they'll be a season.

But them whining about how there are 14 different people, with 14 different agendas, and that "needs to change", is just juvenile fantasy bullshit. It's not dealing with the inarguable fact that is not how the conference is organized. And since I generally root against stupid people, I'm rooting against them.

The issue is, Kevin Warren is supposed to be that one person that takes charge and is the voice for that conference. As the commissioner he is supposed to be the one leading the charge and making decisions for the best interest of the league. But he’s not. From what it sounds like, he’s not doing shit. So....because of his actions others are trying to step up and take charge, somebody has to or this is just going to sit in stalemate forever.

If Warren isn’t a decision maker or has no say in this conference when working with the presidents, then what’s the point of him being there? The presidents themselves are calling out the leadership of the B1G, and that starts with Warren.
 
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The issue is, Kevin Warren is supposed to be that one person that takes charge....

What is the evidence that is true - that he can do whatever he wants regardless of what the heads of the schools say? Where is the evidence that he can force schools to field a team if the President of a school says "no". Every single thing that has happened suggests that is not true.

So....because of his actions others are trying to step up and take charge, somebody has to or this is just going to sit in stalemate forever.

What does that even mean? What authority would these others who are going to "step up and take charge" actually have? They're going to order school Presidents to field a team?? That's nonsense.

This isn't a situation where there is some kind of accidental absence of leadership. This is a situation designed deliberately to have the major decisions made not by a single person, but by a vote of the individual schools. None of the schools were willing to surrender ultimate control over their own programs to someone outside the school. So any self-appointed jackwagon who stands up and says "I'm in charge, follow me" is going to be ignored.

If Warren isn’t a decision maker or has no say in this conference when working with the presidents, then what’s the point of him being there? The presidents themselves are calling out the leadership of the B1G....

Warren is the day to day Administrator/face man, and acts as the representative of the constituent schools when it comes to negotiating with other conferences. But he's not the boss - he works for the 14 school heads, and they're his bosses.
 
Those knuckleheads that are part of the "multiple sources" had the brilliant insight that some self-appointed single decisionmaker can "step up", and just toss out the opinions (actually, decisions) of the 14 heads of those schools. That is either willful ignorance, or plain stupidity. It's like those guys are living in some weird sports fantasy where if someone just "steps up and shows leadership", they can force everyone to follow them. That's not how reality works. There isn't a single decisionmaker, and there isn't going to be one no matter how much they think that "needs" to happen. There are 14 decisionmakers, and none of them are named Kevin Warren. Now if 8 of those individual decisionmakers agree to have a season, then they'll be a season.

But them whining about how there are 14 different people, with 14 different agendas, and that "needs to change", is just juvenile fantasy bullshit. It's not dealing with the inarguable fact that is not how the conference is organized. And since I generally root against stupid people, I'm rooting against them.

Yeah, I’m changing tune on Warren and think his lack of experience and pull is a huge factor in this.

There’s a significant reason Ryan Day called out Duke, Notre Dame, UNC, and Clemson in his tweet. All very respected universities (certainly the first 3...and members of AAU) that were borderline on playing, but decided to make it happen.

There was legit fear in ACC that UNC, Duke, Syracuse, Pitt and potentially NC State would throw a monkey wrench into the conference agenda. But they pulled together on the medical analysis and decided to fight through the initial hardship to help other member institutions.

It’s the exact opposite in the Big 10 where it has been a complete clusterfuck with competing agendas. While Warren doesn’t have the power to influence specific decision makers, a more effective leader could’ve at least gotten the universities into some type of a unity process where they aren’t consistently shitting on eachother.

Like you get this PSU medical report about heart issues, and then Michigan doctors shit on it the next day saying the data sucks. You get Rutgers President shitting on playing football and calling out other conferences for not caring about athletes, and meanwhile Nebraska president is saying we need plans immediately to vote on bc we should be playing football.

It is a complete clusterfuck. The Big 10 looks like a large collective asshole with no direction at all. It’s an embarrassment to what was once seen as a powerhouse. They’ve turned into a bit of a joke......and as said before, it’s sad, on a national stage, to watch the conference’s irrelevancy play out. Outside of the Big 10 footprint, I’ve been disappointed about the lack of collective attention it’s drawn. People literally do not give a shit if the Big 10 and Pac 12 sit out......the SEC, Clemson, and Big 12 is just fine. The Big 10 can take their bullshit elsewhere....who cares.

Meanwhile Larry Scott is praying the Big 10 joins them in January so the PAC 12 and Big 10 can set up a Rose Bowl. Honestly, who the fuck cares about a watered down January season, culminating in a Rose Bowl against the PAC 12. I’m sorry, it’s pathetic......if they don’t play this fall, shut it down until next fall. Playing in January will really be one of the more embarrassing things they could possibly do. It will be a running national joke......just let them practice through the fall (already embarrassing the Big 10 has asked for contact practices but can’t play games) and leave it at that.

And player safety? Lol. Can’t let them play through a disease that is less dangerous to them than influenza, but we can let them have (2) seasons in a calendar year? GTFO. It’s all such poor form. That’s where a leader makes a difference. It needs to be clear to the presidents/chancellors (who are not football junkies) what realistic options are. They don’t even have that. It’s brutal.
 
Huh? Please point me to where I said this. I'm not sure what lead to you getting on your high horse, as if you won't be happily watching Oklahoma play this season.

If it isn't safe, then fine, don't play. But I need answers to these questions:

-Why is it safe for the 100 CFB teams playing?
-Why is it safe for the thousands of High School teams playing? Not to mention even younger kids playing sports?
-Why is it safe for the 50,000 kids running around on campuses everywhere and being stuffed into dorms?
-Why is it safe for the kids to play intramural sports, even at schools that cancelled varsity sports?

I won't even touch on the pro sports, since we are talking about kids.

Everyone can have their opinions, but bottom line is its been deemed safe for all of those people. And nobody is really questioning it, either.

That being the case, why the fuck isn't safe for Big 10 athletes?

This is where I, and 99.9% of people who are unhappy about the current situation, are coming from. I don't think this is a "Plandemic" or anything stupid like that. If it isn't safe, then nobody should be playing.
Nobody (college) should be playing. Period. Putting kids lives at risk for a sport is fucking insane.

Professional athletes are at least getting paid.
 
Nobody (college) should be playing. Period. Putting kids lives at risk for a sport is fucking insane.

Professional athletes are at least getting paid.

Not all compensation in life is monetary. That's why unpleasant jobs that require less education may actually pay more than more fulfilling/pleasant jobs.

And sometimes, people want to do something simply for the sheer pleasure/enjoyment of it. Hell, going on a date increases your potential exposure to Covid, and (unless your date is @Lee ) you're not getting paid for it. Should that be banned too?
 
Nobody (college) should be playing. Period. Putting kids lives at risk for a sport is fucking insane.
I don't disagree. I think it would have made plenty of sense if everyone cancelled and nobody was playing.
 
Nobody (college) should be playing. Period. Putting kids lives at risk for a sport is fucking insane.

Professional athletes are at least getting paid.
No one is forcing them to play. If they’re not comfortable with the risks, they’re free to sit out. No college is pulling scholarships if they don’t play this year. The players overwhelmingly want to play, their parents want them to play, and many of the conferences have determined that it’s safe for them to play. Playing football isn’t going to put their lives “at risk” anymore than them going about their days as college students is. They’re healthy 18-22 year old men. Cancel football and they’re still not going to live their lives indoors away from human interaction.
 

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