2021 Season | Series #42 | Indians @ Red Sox | Sep. 3-5

[CATS44]

The options are Young, Shaw, Parker, Garza, Hentges, and Mejia.

Parker, Shaw, and Parker pitched yesterday, and we saw how that went.

 

[KluberSociety]

I see it as optimistic delusion.

We have a terrible bullpen but if only we had a different manager, somehow he'd be able to make the "right moves", even though all he has to work with are the players that we hate Hale for putting in.

I think Hale has made some questionable decisions, mainly with keeping starters in too long but it's nothing he can't learn to improve on, on the job. Tito isn't exactly the greatest tactical manager himself.

 

[33Y0]

I mean I get that he has been bad, Wittgren has been pretty bad, Shaw is overworked and not good, etc. But I think more than anything we just have a bullpen talent problem and regardless of who is manager, they would have nothing to work with.

Can't argue that one, per se.

ERAs of our bullpen the last 7 games:
Young - 8.59
Garza - 9.53
Parker - 4.05
Shaw - 4.91
Stephan - 5.23
Wittgren - 7.36
Clase - 1.29

ERAs last 15:
Young - 8.55
Garza - 4.29
Parker - 2.93
Shaw - 3.86
Stephan - 4.94
Wittgren - 3.32
Clase - 0.61

ERAs last 30:
Young - 6.56
Garza - N/A
Parker - 2.48
Shaw - 3.41
Stephan - 4.53
Wittgren - 4.59
Clase - 2.12

 

[CATS44]

Coming from the guy who would love to hire Hale... good luck with that one buddy. Keep drinking the magic Kool Aid.

Never said that. Never even hinted at that.

But I have often mentioned how fans hate every bullpen move a manager makes...and love hindsight.

 

[DCTribefan]

Parker cannot throw strikes.

 

[CATS44]

Bad tactical managers don't get to multiple World Series or get to Cooperstown.

 

[33Y0]

Never said that. Never even hinted at that.

But I have often mentioned how fans hate every bullpen move a manager makes...and love hindsight.

You don't have to. It's obvious.

 

[DCTribefan]

Never said that. Never even hinted at that.

But I have often mentioned how fans hate every bullpen move a manager makes...and love hindsight.

Human nature always love hindsight. If fans question a manager’s move 95% of the time, the manager cannot be held harmless.

 

[DCTribefan]

Bad tactical managers don't get to multiple World Series or get to Cooperstown.

Hale? He’ll have to buy a ticket to get into the hall of fame.

 

[KluberSociety]

Bad tactical managers don't get to multiple World Series or get to Cooperstown.

He's not bad, just not great and never was. Little tactical mistakes reduce team winning percentage by a miniscule amount. Now, someone who was actually terrible, Ned Yost, is a recent World Series winner.

 

[DCTribefan]

I see it as optimistic delusion.

We have a terrible bullpen but if only we had a different manager, somehow he'd be able to make the "right moves", even though all he has to work with are the players that we hate Hale for putting in.

I think Hale has made some questionable decisions, mainly with keeping starters in too long but it's nothing he can't learn to improve on, on the job. Tito isn't exactly the greatest tactical manager himself.

Tito comment = blasphemy.

 

[DCTribefan]

Hale must be reading this forum. Clase in for a 4-out save opportunity.

 

[CATS44]

Gotta love speed and the ability to consistently put the bat on the ball.

 

[CATS44]

Yeah.

Franmil is out of his funk.

 

[DCTribefan]

Franmil comes through.